04-14-2007, 09:09 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I confirm. Further, I strictly object on giving ACCAs permission to start practice like CAs in Pakistan. This is solely my personal view and it may be right or wrong in some one other's opinion. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Actually Only Audit Practice License is not a matter for ACCAs because ACCAs are already having Audit Rights in More then 73 countries...my dear brother i don't know why you are extra ordinarly advocating ICAP(merely because you are a member of ICAP)..but don't you think that Whether ACCA or ACA we pakistanis facing lot of difficulties to polish our professionalism skills we only try to restrict ourselves to tution providers to spoon feeding of teachers instead to research at our own isn't it a big question mark that always we try to be specific to our thoughts....i mean if ACA is that better then ACCA so why ICAP's market is diminishing day by day.....why ACCA has got more exposure in potiential employers, companies(Specially investment)...i heared from one of my friend who is currently in Module E ...he gave me advice not to go for articles in any BIG4 audit firm because its useless to you just because you will not be able to carry out audit practise in pakistan instead you should go towards management side like traesury management, and other financial investing sectors,,,i asked him that ok....we ACCAs will not hopefully be gratnted practise license in pakistan ...but tell me onething that if a person who is ACCA-affiliate(No 3 years work experiance)...trys to go for ICAEW what remains next...i mean do these presumptions of ICAP students were ethical...yes thats fact that generally CAs are earning more then ACCAs .... can you ever think why?? i thought that i conclude that just because of lack of professionalism in them...isn't it....lets think if I being an ACCA(Member) go to an employer who has a package of 100,000 for this vacancy plus a CULTUS.....And i speak their core urdu....and when he asked me that what is this ACCA...i tell him that It is world's fastest and largest growing accountancy body situated in UK....when i say UK he was ammazed and asked me that really ACCA is UK based qualification...i say yes no doubt...then he replies me that OK ACCA IS UK BASED QUALIFICATION AND YOU EVEN NOT ABLE TO USE PROPER LANGAUGE HERE AND YOU ACSENT WAS NOT EVEN IMPRESSED ME TO OFFER YOU SUCH JOB..........................what is this ...my dear brother this is a real problem of ACCAs they know far much more then others but they can't make them as prosper as they should....i know the cricullum of LUMS and IBA their finance course is just over our 1.2 and under 2.4......but they are regarded as higher then others why?? because they know how to sell them they know the manners of presentation they know about ethics of meetings....but ACCAs know much about financial world but merely at the expense of their professional groom...and infact the same problem is of ACAs but don't you think that there must be in both ACCA or CA a course merely related to professional grooming of students and future entreprenres .....this is what i also advised to ACCA but they i think not take it in account otherwise they will introduce some subject regarding it in new ACCA qualifications which will be changed in DECEMBER 2007,...... I don't know about whom pointed for this number crunching but if you pointed ACCAs being clerk accountants then what you think about you own ICAPs...i am not against ICAP because my most respectfull teachers belong to ICAP and i am not angry on ICAP ... but offcourse their policies make me to anger....YES YOUR LAST POINT THAT WHY NOT YOU ACCAs PROVE YOURSELVES AS BEING MORE THEN ACAs I MUST SAY THAT IT HAD ALREADY PROVED AND INSHALLAH I WILL INSHALLAH PROVE THIS AT MY OWN INSHAALLAH...BECAUSE THEIR IS LOT TO BE DISCLOSED IN PUBLIC REGARDING THESE MONEY MAKING TUTION PROVIDERS WHAT IS THEIR COUNSELLING THEY ALWAYS MISLEAD STUDENTS AND THEIR PARENTS BY GUIDING THEM THEM HOW TO MAKE MORE AND MORE MONEY IN JUST A FEW TIME...HOW TO GET 10s OF QULAIFICATIONS POST YOUR NAME IN MINIMUM TIME....THEY ARE TOTALLY MISLEADING STUDENTS AS WELL AS THEIR PARENTS BY DIRECTING THEM WRONG PATHS OF"LOOOT MAR" EVERY ONE WANTS TO BE MORE RICH WITHOUT HIS CONTRIBUTION THIS IS MORE "GIRRI HOI SOCH" AND I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT LOT OF ACCA STUDENTS WANTS TO SETTLE BY THAT APPROACH.......I am ltough ACCA part 2 student i am not having any professional skills and any other qualifications but i am very disappointed by our body's members and students.....think with this regards and reply about it .....................................
Actually Only Audit Practice License is not a matter for ACCAs because ACCAs are already having Audit Rights in More then 73 countries...my dear brother i don't know why you are extra ordinarly advocating ICAP(merely because you are a member of ICAP)..but don't you think that Whether ACCA or ACA we pakistanis facing lot of difficulties to polish our professionalism skills we only try to restrict ourselves to tution providers to spoon feeding of teachers instead to research at our own isn't it a big question mark that always we try to be specific to our thoughts....i mean if ACA is that better then ACCA so why ICAP's market is diminishing day by day.....why ACCA has got more exposure in potiential employers, companies(Specially investment)...i heared from one of my friend who is currently in Module E ...he gave me advice not to go for articles in any BIG4 audit firm because its useless to you just because you will not be able to carry out audit practise in pakistan instead you should go towards management side like traesury management, and other financial investing sectors,,,i asked him that ok....we ACCAs will not hopefully be gratnted practise license in pakistan ...but tell me onething that if a person who is ACCA-affiliate(No 3 years work experiance)...trys to go for ICAEW what remains next...i mean do these presumptions of ICAP students were ethical...yes thats fact that generally CAs are earning more then ACCAs .... can you ever think why?? i thought that i conclude that just because of lack of professionalism in them...isn't it....lets think if I being an ACCA(Member) go to an employer who has a package of 100,000 for this vacancy plus a CULTUS.....And i speak their core urdu....and when he asked me that what is this ACCA...i tell him that It is world's fastest and largest growing accountancy body situated in UK....when i say UK he was ammazed and asked me that really ACCA is UK based qualification...i say yes no doubt...then he replies me that OK ACCA IS UK BASED QUALIFICATION AND YOU EVEN NOT ABLE TO USE PROPER LANGAUGE HERE AND YOU ACSENT WAS NOT EVEN IMPRESSED ME TO OFFER YOU SUCH JOB..........................what is this ...my dear brother this is a real problem of ACCAs they know far much more then others but they can't make them as prosper as they should....i know the cricullum of LUMS and IBA their finance course is just over our 1.2 and under 2.4......but they are regarded as higher then others why?? because they know how to sell them they know the manners of presentation they know about ethics of meetings....but ACCAs know much about financial world but merely at the expense of their professional groom...and infact the same problem is of ACAs but don't you think that there must be in both ACCA or CA a course merely related to professional grooming of students and future entreprenres .....this is what i also advised to ACCA but they i think not take it in account otherwise they will introduce some subject regarding it in new ACCA qualifications which will be changed in DECEMBER 2007,...... I don't know about whom pointed for this number crunching but if you pointed ACCAs being clerk accountants then what you think about you own ICAPs...i am not against ICAP because my most respectfull teachers belong to ICAP and i am not angry on ICAP ... but offcourse their policies make me to anger....YES YOUR LAST POINT THAT WHY NOT YOU ACCAs PROVE YOURSELVES AS BEING MORE THEN ACAs I MUST SAY THAT IT HAD ALREADY PROVED AND INSHALLAH I WILL INSHALLAH PROVE THIS AT MY OWN INSHAALLAH...BECAUSE THEIR IS LOT TO BE DISCLOSED IN PUBLIC REGARDING THESE MONEY MAKING TUTION PROVIDERS WHAT IS THEIR COUNSELLING THEY ALWAYS MISLEAD STUDENTS AND THEIR PARENTS BY GUIDING THEM THEM HOW TO MAKE MORE AND MORE MONEY IN JUST A FEW TIME...HOW TO GET 10s OF QULAIFICATIONS POST YOUR NAME IN MINIMUM TIME....THEY ARE TOTALLY MISLEADING STUDENTS AS WELL AS THEIR PARENTS BY DIRECTING THEM WRONG PATHS OF"LOOOT MAR" EVERY ONE WANTS TO BE MORE RICH WITHOUT HIS CONTRIBUTION THIS IS MORE "GIRRI HOI SOCH" AND I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT LOT OF ACCA STUDENTS WANTS TO SETTLE BY THAT APPROACH.......I am ltough ACCA part 2 student i am not having any professional skills and any other qualifications but i am very disappointed by our body's members and students.....think with this regards and reply about it .....................................