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faisalz
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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 Posted - Jul 31 2003 : 11:10:49 AM
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i just wanted to ask if the american , british or the canadian acturial sciences program is any different and for a person seeking his future here in pakistan.can you also tell me how good is waterloo in this field.
thank you
faisalz
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sumaaan
Moderator
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Posted - Jul 31 2003 : 2:21:17 PM
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The American and British streams are both accepted in Pakistan. Students usually have to decide which country they're opting to settle in the near future and hence, choose the stream. For example, a person planning to move to USA will certainly opt for the American stream.
However, both streams are considered at par in Pakistan (according to my knowledge).
This topic has been discussed before. Kindly visit the link below.
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=164
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Posted - Aug 02 2003 : 12:02:07 PM
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Hello Sumaan.
I have just visited the link you have provided. I think you can help me in gathering some more information regarding acturial studies. I am quite interested in this field. I already have a professional qualification but there is alwys room for improvement. I'll be thankful if you can provide me some informations, website addresses etc.
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sumaaan
Moderator
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Posted - Aug 02 2003 : 5:54:49 PM
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Hello Sumaan.
I have just visited the link you have provided. I think you can help me in gathering some more information regarding acturial studies. I am quite interested in this field. I already have a professional qualification but there is alwys room for improvement. I'll be thankful if you can provide me some informations, website addresses etc.
Waiting for your response.
If you already have a professional qualification and you don't want to go through all those 6-8 years of Actuarial Sciences, I recommend you only do the BSc. in Actuarial Sciences course. However, according to my knowledge, it is currently only offered in Karachi University. If you reside in Karachi, I think you should pay a visit to Karachi University.
But if you are willing to do the whole course, its always good.
""An actuary is a business professional who analyzes the financial consequences of risk. Actuaries use mathematics, statistics, and financial theory to study uncertain future events, especially those of concern to insurance and pension programs. Actuaries may work for insurance companies, consulting firms, government, employee benefits departments of large corporations, hospitals, banks and investment firms, or, more generally, in businesses that need to manage financial risk. A career as an Actuary is better described as a "business" career with a mathematical basis than as a "technical" mathematical career.""
I hope the following links will be of assistance.
www.beanactuary.org
www.actuary.com
www.actuary.org
www.soa.org
www.actuaryjobs.com
www.the-actuary.org.uk
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saadrf
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Aug 12 2003 : 7:25:33 PM
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Hi My name Is saad And i am a student of A'Levels planning to Do Actuarial Sciences. My Questions and doubts about this field are
1. i have researched alot and as far as i understand there are different boards taking different actuarial papers. Is that true. And if true then how should i decide which board's paper to give and plz could u tell me something abt these boards
2. would a bsc(Hons) from Lums be a good option for me if i want to join this field or will a bsc Actuarial sciences from LSE.
3. if i do actuarial sciences from britain can i practice in america and vice versa
last but not the least plz mail me the actuarial handbook u mailed to waqas(i got to know abt it on another forum of urs)
i would be highly obliged if u can help me
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sumaaan
Moderator
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Posted - Aug 13 2003 : 03:40:36 AM
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Hi My name Is saad And i am a student of A'Levels planning to Do Actuarial Sciences. My Questions and doubts about this field are
1. i have researched alot and as far as i understand there are different boards taking different actuarial papers. Is that true. And if true then how should i decide which board's paper to give and plz could u tell me something abt these boards
2. would a bsc(Hons) from Lums be a good option for me if i want to join this field or will a bsc Actuarial sciences from LSE.
3. if i do actuarial sciences from britain can i practice in america and vice versa
last but not the least plz mail me the actuarial handbook u mailed to waqas(i got to know abt it on another forum of urs)
i would be highly obliged if u can help me
Hi Saad. Nice to hear about your future plans. I myself am not an Actuarial Sciences student but I hope I can help you out. Now, the answers to your questions:
1. There are TWO Actuarial Sciences 'boards/bodies'. One is of UK and the other of USA. If you want to stay in Pakistan, you can opt for either stream, as both are considered the same here. The syllabus of both the streams are more or less same, slightly different, but dividing into modules in a different way... The UK stream has short modules totalling 15... whereas the USA stream has 9 long modules.
2. I mentioned earlier in another relevant topic, that I don't have much idea abt the BSc. in Actuarial Sciences degree. But I can assure you of this, the BSc. in Actuarial Sciences from LSE is certainly better than the BSc.(hons) of LUMS.
3. If you study the UK stream, you can practice in USA as well and vice versa, but you won't be paid accordingly, and will have to clear some more actuarial examinations in the respective country.
You can contact me at sumaaan@accountancy.com.pk and I'll mail you actuarial students handbook.
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saadrf
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Aug 13 2003 : 3:24:21 PM
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can anyone her plz give me contacts to acturials settled in pakistan
i would be extremely grateful if someone can help me out
thanks
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waqas
Unregistered Trainee
United Arab Emirates
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Posted - Aug 14 2003 : 1:26:54 PM
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Mr. Abdul Rahim Wahab, FSA
Sidat hyder Morshed Associates
Ph 92-21-5650007-11
Mr.Nauman Cheema,FSA
Nauman Associates
Ph 92-42-6660990
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zErOcOOL
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
1 Posts |
Posted - Jun 05 2004 : 2:55:44 PM
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hye guyz,
Well i just needed a lil help,im done wid ma inters in pre-engineering group ,and now im plannin to do actuarial sciences,im forcin ma dad to lemme goto uk ,but i knw he wont lemme.... so wateva i hav to do ..i have to do it pk..i just needed an advice dat whr shud i apply sutf..ive heard ku introduced a bachelors program for actuarial sciences..just temme abt da exams and stuff....thnx newayz
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sumaaan
Moderator
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Posted - Jun 06 2004 : 01:15:43 AM
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hye guyz,
Well i just needed a lil help,im done wid ma inters in pre-engineering group ,and now im plannin to do actuarial sciences,im forcin ma dad to lemme goto uk ,but i knw he wont lemme.... so wateva i hav to do ..i have to do it pk..i just needed an advice dat whr shud i apply sutf..ive heard ku introduced a bachelors program for actuarial sciences..just temme abt da exams and stuff....thnx newayz
uzair saqib
Kindly search the forum for other 'Actuary' threads. Almost all questions have been answered regarding Actuarial Sciences.
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/search.asp
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crazymath
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Jun 06 2004 : 02:25:30 AM
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Hi everybody,
There was someone asking for the number of actuaries in Pakistan. The reply I got from SOA, they sent me this link.
http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/msgr/pakilesbo/.tmp/ma1.jpg?ms6jqwABWwGDUueE
Its a breakup of the number of actuaries registered with them.
Moreover, thanks SUMAAAN for keeping the guys posted here, infact this should have been my job as I come from this feild.
There was another guy here interested in doing actuarial science... for God sake, stick to your profession... Its true that there is always a room for improvement, instead of changing tracks, make the improvement in your feild. I wish and pray every one of you succeeds and excels in their respective feild.
My heartiest wishes and regards to you all.
Ameer Zaid
crazymath@beaconet.net
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
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sumaaan
Moderator
472 Posts |
Posted - Jun 07 2004 : 12:44:08 AM
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Hi everybody,
There was someone asking for the number of actuaries in Pakistan. The reply I got from SOA, they sent me this link.
http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/msgr/pakilesbo/.tmp/ma1.jpg?ms6jqwABWwGDUueE
Its a breakup of the number of actuaries registered with them.
Moreover, thanks SUMAAAN for keeping the guys posted here, infact this should have been my job as I come from this feild.
There was another guy here interested in doing actuarial science... for God sake, stick to your profession... Its true that there is always a room for improvement, instead of changing tracks, make the improvement in your feild. I wish and pray every one of you succeeds and excels in their respective feild.
My heartiest wishes and regards to you all.
Ameer Zaid
crazymath@beaconet.net
AZKS
Thanks..
Actually the link you posted has expired... Can you provide an updated link?
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crazymath
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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BlueMist
Unregistered Trainee
2 Posts |
Posted - Jun 12 2004 : 03:58:39 AM
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Hello Everyone,
I AM A STUDENT OF FSC PRE ENGINEERING.WELL FINISHED IT AT LAST THOUGH.LIKE MANY OTHER GUYZ N GALS I AM ALSO INTERESTED IN DOING ACTUARIAL SCIENCES.WELL I CAME TO KNOW ABOUT THIS FROM A FRIEND OF MINE.I DONT KNOW ABOUT OTHERS BUT I AM INTERESTED IN THIS FIELD DUE TO ITS HUGE JOB OPPURTUNITIES AND THE "SALARY".ALSO I CAME TO KNOW THAT STATE LIFE HIRES PEOPLE TO DO ACTUARY AND OFFERS A JOB SIMLUTANEOUSLY.AFTER STUDY THEY JOIN WITH STATE LIFE.BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE IS NO STATE LIFE BATCH GOING IN NEAR FUTURE AS IT WENT LAST YEAR.I ALSO KNONW THAT OTHER INSTITIONS ALSO FACILITATE IN STUDYING ACTUARY.BUT I DONT KNOW ABOUT THEM.
SO KINDLY SUGGEST ME A COURSE OF ACTION.WHAT SHOULD I DO.I MEAN WHERE CAN I APPLY FOR DOING ACTUARY.I AM WILLING TO DO THE HARD WORK.BUT I HAVE TO FIND THE PROPER MEANS.KINDLY HELP.AND ALSO IF ANY ONE HAS ANY QUESTION KINDLY POST ON THIS FORUM AND I WILL REPLY INSHALLAH.
THANKING IN ADVANCE
FARRUKH
BLUE MIST
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sumaaan
Moderator
472 Posts |
Posted - Jun 12 2004 : 07:26:04 AM
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Hello Everyone,
I AM A STUDENT OF FSC PRE ENGINEERING.WELL FINISHED IT AT LAST THOUGH.LIKE MANY OTHER GUYZ N GALS I AM ALSO INTERESTED IN DOING ACTUARIAL SCIENCES.WELL I CAME TO KNOW ABOUT THIS FROM A FRIEND OF MINE.I DONT KNOW ABOUT OTHERS BUT I AM INTERESTED IN THIS FIELD DUE TO ITS HUGE JOB OPPURTUNITIES AND THE "SALARY".ALSO I CAME TO KNOW THAT STATE LIFE HIRES PEOPLE TO DO ACTUARY AND OFFERS A JOB SIMLUTANEOUSLY.AFTER STUDY THEY JOIN WITH STATE LIFE.BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE IS NO STATE LIFE BATCH GOING IN NEAR FUTURE AS IT WENT LAST YEAR.I ALSO KNONW THAT OTHER INSTITIONS ALSO FACILITATE IN STUDYING ACTUARY.BUT I DONT KNOW ABOUT THEM.
SO KINDLY SUGGEST ME A COURSE OF ACTION.WHAT SHOULD I DO.I MEAN WHERE CAN I APPLY FOR DOING ACTUARY.I AM WILLING TO DO THE HARD WORK.BUT I HAVE TO FIND THE PROPER MEANS.KINDLY HELP.AND ALSO IF ANY ONE HAS ANY QUESTION KINDLY POST ON THIS FORUM AND I WILL REPLY INSHALLAH.
THANKING IN ADVANCE
FARRUKH
BLUE MIST
Welcome to the forum. Kindly post your question only once.
Its a once in a life time sort of opportunity to get into Statelife... They usually take in trainees very very seldom... And yes, if you're planning to stay in Pakistan, Statelife should be your first choice... If you're planning to get into Statelife, I guess you'll have to wait another 3-4 years...
For your other questions, kindly visit the links below:
For more information about Actuarial Sciences, please visit the following links:
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=737
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=164
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=767
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=762
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=586
Wish you best of luck.
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syedhassan
Semi Senior
Saudi Arabia
160 Posts |
Posted - Feb 14 2005 : 12:30:36 AM
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Originally posted by sumaaan
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Hello Everyone,
I AM A STUDENT OF FSC PRE ENGINEERING.WELL FINISHED IT AT LAST THOUGH.LIKE MANY OTHER GUYZ N GALS I AM ALSO INTERESTED IN DOING ACTUARIAL SCIENCES.WELL I CAME TO KNOW ABOUT THIS FROM A FRIEND OF MINE.I DONT KNOW ABOUT OTHERS BUT I AM INTERESTED IN THIS FIELD DUE TO ITS HUGE JOB OPPURTUNITIES AND THE "SALARY".ALSO I CAME TO KNOW THAT STATE LIFE HIRES PEOPLE TO DO ACTUARY AND OFFERS A JOB SIMLUTANEOUSLY.AFTER STUDY THEY JOIN WITH STATE LIFE.BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE IS NO STATE LIFE BATCH GOING IN NEAR FUTURE AS IT WENT LAST YEAR.I ALSO KNONW THAT OTHER INSTITIONS ALSO FACILITATE IN STUDYING ACTUARY.BUT I DONT KNOW ABOUT THEM.
SO KINDLY SUGGEST ME A COURSE OF ACTION.WHAT SHOULD I DO.I MEAN WHERE CAN I APPLY FOR DOING ACTUARY.I AM WILLING TO DO THE HARD WORK.BUT I HAVE TO FIND THE PROPER MEANS.KINDLY HELP.AND ALSO IF ANY ONE HAS ANY QUESTION KINDLY POST ON THIS FORUM AND I WILL REPLY INSHALLAH.
THANKING IN ADVANCE
FARRUKH
BLUE MIST
Welcome to the forum. Kindly post your question only once.
Its a once in a life time sort of opportunity to get into Statelife... They usually take in trainees very very seldom... And yes, if you're planning to stay in Pakistan, Statelife should be your first choice... If you're planning to get into Statelife, I guess you'll have to wait another 3-4 years...
For your other questions, kindly visit the links below:
For more information about Actuarial Sciences, please visit the following links:
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=737
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=164
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=767
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=762
http://www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=586
Wish you best of luck.
HELLO THERE...
THIS IS TRUELY AN INTERESTING FIELD BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCAL MARKET...
LIKE, IN PAKISTAN... HOW MANY INSURANCE COMPANIES AND CONSULTANCY AGENCYS DO YOU SEE...
DOES THE MARKET SEEM GROWING IN NEAR FUTURE..
I THINK IT WOULD HERE, BUT IT WOULD TAKE TIME..
as the growing no. of businesses, are directly proportional to the RISKS they are exposed to..
IN US.. ITS A MUCH GROWING FIELD today..
THE RESPONSIBLE POSITION IN AN ORGANIZATION LIKE "INSURANCE BUSINESS" CAN BE...A.."RISK ASSESSMENT ANALYST..."
AFTER 4-6 SUCCESSFUL YEARS OF PRACTISE, YOU MOVE FURTHER TO..
a "SENIOR R..k ASS...t ANALYST"
they actually assess risk for:...
1-companys
2-individuals (CEO's etc)
a situation can be...
(when they come of some age and wish to acquire some other business and.... need to insure and assure their health, life and mental soundness etc... for the future ahead to the co. acquiring business.)
its a growing business in America..
and also salary wise...
but it all depends on YOUR PASSION and YOUR SKILLS and COMMITMENT..
regards...
syedhassan...
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
605 Posts |
Posted - Feb 15 2005 : 7:39:01 PM
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Career in the actuarial profession doesn't start until you qualify. Once you qualified, you can be as dynamic as you possibly want. I know many people who started out in the traditional pension, insurance, health care, areas but now works in several non-traditional roles - ofcourse making, in some cases, upto 100% rise in their past salaries.
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bestofjunaid
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Feb 15 2005 : 8:47:01 PM
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hi i am junaid i want to do acturial science but i am doing inter in COMMERCE i have done matric in science can got 94 in maths can i do acturial science if yes then from where i can do
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
605 Posts |
Posted - Feb 16 2005 : 3:39:52 PM
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Originally posted by bestofjunaid
hi i am junaid i want to do acturial science but i am doing inter in COMMERCE i have done matric in science can got 94 in maths can i do acturial science if yes then from where i can do
PLEASE HELP
Junaid - welcome to the forum.
Alot has been said already in the past on your questions. As usual, please refer to the earlier discussions and do come back to us with 'specific' questions that haven;t been answered.
Good Luck
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nauman612
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Mar 30 2005 : 1:53:29 PM
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
605 Posts |
Posted - Mar 30 2005 : 8:20:15 PM
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To get the best idea for eligibility you need to check individual university's prospectus. If I were your employer and I get to see a resume who had done BE followed by a MSC. Actuarial Science, I would have second thoughts on why should I hire this person over somebody you did Maths or Stats or Act. Sc. BSc. Of course, this person hasn't got enough idea of his future.
So, its better to play safe. If you are inclined towards Actuarial Profession then persue something alot relevant to the profession. If you can't do BS in Actuarial Science, try doing Maths, Stats or might be Econmomics. Although, I would prefer Maths or Stats.
Also, MS Actuarial Science is equivalent to BS Actuarial Science (in terms of syllabus and number of exemptions you could get). So, even you would say you have done masters, people in Actuarial community would regard it as a BS.
The only exception is when you do something called Actuarial Management or something on those lines (not many universities offer them that I must warn you). These degrees allows you to get later exemptions but the requirement for them is a BS Actuarial Science or MS Actuarial Science.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend MS Actuarial Management either. because not many employers would happy yo take you on. I know you would think the other way around. But the matter of fact is later Actuarial Exams are more related to day to day real life problems and just having exemptions you wouldn't have developed enough working knowledge to pass them.
Also, most bodies have minimum work experience requirements so even if you have cleared all exams you will still not qualify as an actuary and your salary wouldn't have any impact as well.
I hope I haven't confused you much here!!
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nauman612
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 4:52:57 PM
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| well thanx for conivcing me abt not doing BE before actuarial sc. How it is if I do ACCA den act.sc. |
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
605 Posts |
Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 5:13:31 PM
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Originally posted by nauman612
well thanx for conivcing me abt not doing BE before actuarial sc. How it is if I do ACCA den act.sc.
I'm sorry to ask but do you actually know what actuarial studies is all about?
I have feelings that you don't know about it much because otherwise you would know the answer to your questions.
ACCA is an accountancy qualification and has nothing to do with Actuarial. ACCA combination is much worse than your BE scenario. Also, ACCA isn't quantitative to the extent what BE is, so you may get alot of problems getting admission into any university.
If you think eventually you want to be in actuarial profession, then do Maths, Stats or Actuarial Science bachelors. In Pakistan, only KU offers a programme of (i think) 4 years in actuarial science but that programme isn't recognised by Institute of Actuaries (UK) or Society of Actuaries (USA) so you wouldn't get any exemptions from these bodies.
I think if you have done that programme you would have atleast gathered some knowledge about the syllabus and may easily pass the first few sets of professional exams as they more or less should corresponds to each other.
If you thinking of going abroad for higher education than in UK you have LSE, City, Kent, Heriot-Watt and Southampton who offers BS in Actuarial Science. I have listed them in their order of prestige and quality of teaching.
On rough estimate, you would all cost around £50,000 less any scholarships or grants that you may be able to get. LSE doesn't offer much assistance that I must warn you.
Hope it helps.
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nauman612
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Apr 01 2005 : 4:28:51 PM
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but i cant go abroad before donig bachelors ???
den wat can i do
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
605 Posts |
Posted - Apr 01 2005 : 7:19:24 PM
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Originally posted by nauman612
but i cant go abroad before donig bachelors ???
den wat can i do
Why can't you do AS from KU or any maths or stats from a reputed university in Pakistan?
I think that's the only option you will have.
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Mubashir
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
12 Posts |
Posted - Apr 12 2005 : 09:32:17 AM
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Salaam,
I am fresh to this forum, and had learned a lot about actuary from this forum.
As I am inclined on doing the actuary from SOA. I shall be sitting in the examination of fall 2005.
My question is about the text books. I had searched a lot for it and had been successful in getting only 'Fundamental of Probability' for the paper 'P'. Now I am searching for the text book for the paper 'FM'. Do you have any information about it.
The study manual or notes are my second question. I had downloaded only the first chapter from www.bpptraining.com. But the hardcopy is available by purchasing it from them, and that is quite unaffordable for me (ranging from $75-$100). Do any of you guys have information about it.
Do let me know. Thanks.
Mubashir. |
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adnan25
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
23 Posts |
Posted - Apr 25 2005 : 3:28:15 PM
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| unfortunately the books for the soa exams are not available in pakistan, if u have a contact in state life u can get it photocopied from there, or try to find someone in akhtar hasan or sidat haider |
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insaan
Semi Senior
Pakistan
192 Posts |
Posted - Apr 30 2005 : 01:58:36 AM
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mubashir if u wanna do exam P i can help u a bit in this regard
do contact me if u want so
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MAyub
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - May 06 2005 : 5:21:12 PM
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| I too is interested in Actuarial science. I am hoping to get a Bachelors degree in Actuarial sciences , that lead to an exemption, just after my A'Level. Would anybody here tell me, tthe degree that KU offers, is what i require? Thanking you. |
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
605 Posts |
Posted - May 08 2005 : 03:13:19 AM
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Originally posted by MAyub
I too is interested in Actuarial science. I am hoping to get a Bachelors degree in Actuarial sciences , that lead to an exemption, just after my A'Level. Would anybody here tell me, tthe degree that KU offers, is what i require? Thanking you.
If you had gone through past posts on this topic you would've got the answer, i.e. at present KU programme in Actuarial Science doesn't offer any exemption.
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insaan
Semi Senior
Pakistan
192 Posts |
Posted - May 08 2005 : 9:38:25 PM
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itz the fact that at present KU is having no exemption..
but i hope that after one has done bachelor from KU he would get the examption of VEE requirements as per new educational standards..but for this u would have to be having the exam p and exam FM passed..i would never recommend a bachelors from KU but if u do so u may get help in passing exammss ..the better option would be to prepare for exam P and Exam FM privately and then hopefully you would be recruited and that's then over 2 u..hope 4 the best |
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MAyub
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
2 Posts |
Posted - May 14 2005 : 09:02:03 AM
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Ty DT for ur reply.
Apart From KU, the only option left is joining State Life. What do u say?
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owais
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
2 Posts |
Posted - May 16 2005 : 12:49:08 PM
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| any one of you plz tell me what should i do?when will sate life progrmme started about actuarial sciences |
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
605 Posts |
Posted - May 21 2005 : 01:28:35 AM
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Originally posted by owais
any one of you plz tell me what should i do?when will sate life progrmme started about actuarial sciences
I'm sure there would be other employers who may also support you for actuarial qualifications -- am I right to assume this?
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eShA
Semi Senior
Pakistan
171 Posts |
Posted - May 22 2005 : 10:01:25 PM
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state life hire only Inter(pre-enge) students who are below 18 .
and Do answers DT question personnel at state life are to rude or u can say selfish they cant help u..
regard,,,,
from the best
and top of all
eShA
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«................. eShA .................»
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
605 Posts |
Posted - May 22 2005 : 11:39:24 PM
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and Do answers DT question personnel at state life are to rude or u can say selfish they cant help u..
Sorry, I didn't understand what you were trying to say.
Please elaborate.
DT |
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Sohail Arif
Unregistered Trainee
United Kingdom
2 Posts |
Posted - Jun 02 2005 : 10:57:42 PM
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well there are two firms in pakistan that i have my self worked with which i think are perfect for starting a career one of them is ALICO a life insurance firm and another is akthar and hassan a pensions consultancy. if u contact any of these firms on enquiries on actuarial sci they would very answer ur questions very patiently and guide u through best of their knowledge and experience. another thing if u dont want to go abroad and study actuarial science then i think the best place to get ur Bachelors from is Lecole it has a university of london and LSE external degree program which is totally recognized in UK. so u wont have any problems if u go to uk for ur masters. None of the universities in pakistan or in USA or canada get exemptions i have checked that up and i am 100% sure about it. so go to UK if u want exemptions. right now the best place in UK for actuarial sciecnce is Cass business School of City university of london. it has the largest faculty of Actuarial scieence in europe and is considered to be 2nd best in the world. right now i am doing my BSc Actuarial Sci from Cass bussiness school of city univeristy of london and i have just finished my 1st year and believe me cass business school is really very good i am there and i can say from experience.
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zaid
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Jun 29 2005 : 1:11:36 PM
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hi, i am zaid. i have some questions about actuarial sciences. right now i am just finished with my A-levels exams and waiting for my results to come up, mean while i am inquiring for actuarial sciences. first of all, can any body here tell me about bsc in actuarial sciences?
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naam_thegreat
Semi Senior
Pakistan
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 7:54:43 PM
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ehmmmmmmmmm....
~O~N~E~ |
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adnan25
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Jul 01 2005 : 02:39:02 AM
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| it really is annoying when losers, post stupid messages like the message above. any comments senior members? |
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jul 02 2005 : 01:51:24 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by zaid
hi, i am zaid. i have some questions about actuarial sciences. right now i am just finished with my A-levels exams and waiting for my results to come up, mean while i am inquiring for actuarial sciences. first of all, can any body here tell me about bsc in actuarial sciences?
zaid
What info. do you want to know about BSc. in Actuarial Science? Please be specific.
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zaid
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Jul 02 2005 : 1:33:07 PM
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hello ahsan, i got your reply, yes i am comitted about Bsc in Actuarial sciences. and there is another thing which is "BS" and "MS" in actuarial sciences. i am just confused about all of these things. because as far as i know Actuarial scineces is a profession and it requires a lot of time to complete this program. i got this info from a guy came to give a presentation about Actuarial sciences. i am studying in Karachi grammar school and just finished with my A-level exams. now this is the time to choose a field and i am intrested in actuarial sciences.
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derivativetrader
Manager
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jul 02 2005 : 11:34:30 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by zaid
hello ahsan, i got your reply, yes i am comitted about Bsc in Actuarial sciences. and there is another thing which is "BS" and "MS" in actuarial sciences. i am just confused about all of these things. because as far as i know Actuarial scineces is a profession and it requires a lot of time to complete this program. i got this info from a guy came to give a presentation about Actuarial sciences. i am studying in Karachi grammar school and just finished with my A-level exams. now this is the time to choose a field and i am intrested in actuarial sciences.
zaid
Please do bit of search on this forum and you will get answers to all of your questions. I have myself answered these in much detail in past.
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Umair.aka
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Jul 04 2005 : 12:40:14 PM
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hello there, could u tell me if it is essential to have studied accounting to do actuarial sciences??
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zaid
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 1:28:05 PM
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Hello there, could any body of you tell me about the best universities for the complete actuarial sciences courses in the US,UK and canada.
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sumaaan
Moderator
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Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 04:31:19 AM
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Accounting is not compulsory for Actuarial Sciences.
Best in UK would be LSE, but it only offers BSc. I hope derivativetrader could help you with this one, though.
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Syed
Unregistered Trainee
USA
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Posted - Jul 24 2005 : 2:28:26 PM
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| Accounting and actuarial sciences are very different fields and its not easy to migrate from one to the other without graying your hair in the process...so choose carefully. In the US the university does not matter one bit. Only exams and experience. |
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sumaaan
Moderator
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Posted - Jul 25 2005 : 02:32:43 AM
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Originally posted by Syed
Accounting and actuarial sciences are very different fields and its not easy to migrate from one to the other without graying your hair in the process...so choose carefully. In the US the university does not matter one bit. Only exams and experience.
True
However, I guess Zaid was asking about the degree courses and not SOA, that is why he was asking about university. And according to my knowledge, university ranks counts a lot! |
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nadir_actuary
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Jul 25 2005 : 08:02:26 AM
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I am graduating from KU in BS Actuarial Science looking for the contacts of those guys giving or gonna to apply for Actuarial Exams.
<b><i><font color="blue"><s>Nadir Hussain</s></font id="blue"></i></b> |
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nadir_actuary
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
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Posted - Jul 25 2005 : 08:10:28 AM
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I am new to this forum wonna to know if any one is concern with the Actuarial divisions of Sidat haider , Akhtar & Hasan , state life or balla balla.I need to know about the market requirements and the eligibilities in the concerning firms.
Simultaneously with my University education I wonna to give Society's actuarial exams too.
Is there any body in the respective field or somewhat of touch with it.
<b><i><font color="blue"><s>Nadir Hussain</s></font id="blue"></i></b> |
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