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KK
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Posted - Feb 02 2003 :  02:07:14 AM  Show Profile  Send KK a Yahoo! Message
There is a general impression that accountants are very dry and boring in nature. They don't have any sence of humour and enjoyment ..........
Why it's like dis and how this wrong impression was developed. What I think it has nothing to do woth accounting profession infact it depands upon the nature of the person.

What u people think abt that ...................


KK
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Posted - Feb 16 2003 :  01:08:51 AM  Show Profile  Send KK a Yahoo! Message
Accountants are definitely not the boring bean counters they are often portrayed as. As with lawyers, they have acquired a range of useful skills through formal education, specific training, and subsequent experience that places them in an incredibly wide range of jobs--jobs that are not only well-paying, but definitely not boring. Forensic accounting, for example, is so absorbingly interesting and even exciting, that it makes Sherlock Holmes being chased around by the Hound of the Baskervilles seem mundane by comparison.

Accountants are involved in a far broader range of activities than just doing your taxes. And if you equate accountancy with book keeping, think again--it's whole different ball game. The forensic accountants, for example, may be engaged in public practice or employed by insurance companies, banks, police forces, government agencies, and many other organizations. They are routinely involved in:

- Investigation and analysis of financial evidence

- Development of computerized applications to assist in the analysis and presentation of financial evidence


- Communication of their findings in the form of reports, exhibits and collections of documents


- Assistance in legal proceedings, including testifying in court as an expert witness and preparing visual aids to support trial evidence



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Hammad
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Posted - Feb 18 2003 :  8:00:33 PM  Show Profile
I think that the impression of Accountants being boring is being created by old generation accountants who has to prepare manual books of accounts and reports (definitely a boring work) but now computers has solved this problem and role of accountant is more towards strategy building and help management make critical decision that I believe is a really interesting and challenging work and have a pleasant effect on accountants personality. So, I believe the impression of Accountants being boring will change soon.

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KK
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Posted - Feb 19 2003 :  03:13:05 AM  Show Profile  Send KK a Yahoo! Message
what about in advance coutries where accountants are using computer for a long time and still the impression "Boring accountants" is there.



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Ashfaque Shaikh
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Posted - Mar 24 2003 :  3:41:35 PM  Show Profile
I think we should concur, ours is a boring profession. And whatever we say about it in terms of breadth of experience and learning opportunities, we miss something called "creativity", and when we try to be creative by employing "creative accounting", our ethics are compromised. so to remain ethical, we must be boring. :)

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khawerjavedqazi
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Posted - Apr 07 2003 :  10:15:56 PM  Show Profile  Send khawerjavedqazi an ICQ Message
Yes you are right to an extent that accountants are boring.The main reason for this is that accountants have to do very sensitive job.The little mistake can lead a company to the worst situations and there good move can bring the company to a shinning future.As accountants are the backbones of the businesses.
And last but not the least is that the accountants are the most intelligent personalities.

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Khawerfca
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Posted - Apr 09 2003 :  10:51:44 AM  Show Profile
The accountant's job needs that he should be sincere and concerned with his work.So that he can make good results.Otherwise it is a wrong concept that accountants are boring and dry people.

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unlucky18
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Pakistan
9 Posts

Posted - May 06 2003 :  5:24:44 PM  Show Profile
AOA
As u all r accountant but friends i ma a student of foundation so as far as i am concerned we r not boring icap make us bored.The criteria of icap make us bored we have to study so much tht we can't participate in different activities due to which people around us declare us as boring person or "kitabi kera" so we r not boring it's due to icap (devil).Am i right or wrong u guys have to tell me


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TheOne
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Pakistan
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Posted - May 09 2003 :  9:56:18 PM  Show Profile
Don't get further bored and read this:

You may be taking accounting too seriously if…
You can't wait to do your own tax return.
You think the GAP store at the mall sells accounting standards.
You think the CMA awards on TV relate to accounting (CMA is the Country Music Association).
You cheer at the Oscars when they announce the accounting firm in charge of the envelopes.
You read film credits to identify the name of the Production Accountant.
You double underline your mother's name when preparing her death notice.
You do an NPV calculation when you receive an indecent proposal (Of course this makes perfect sense if you are married).
You do an NPV calculation before deciding not to have children.
You think that Greek Oracles were early developers of database accounting systems.
You can explain the difference between "downsizing", "right sizing", "re-engineering" and "firing people".
You think that leaving at 5 o'clock is a half day.
You use the term "value added" with a straight face.
Your Valentine's Day cards have bullet points.
You schedule a meeting with your spouse to discuss the past year's performance.
You aren't sure, but you think that you can claim depreciation on your human capital as a tax deduction.
Your idea of "absolute terror" is an unbalanced T account.
Your idea of "creativity" is a one-sided journal entry.


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TheOne
Junior

Pakistan
135 Posts

Posted - May 09 2003 :  10:12:25 PM  Show Profile
Think again.. r Accountants really boring ?
Accountants aren't boring people, we just get excited over boring things.
Where do homeless accountants live?
In a tax shelter.
Why don't accountants count sheep to get to sleep?
Because they lose count and then take three hours to find the error.
Why don't accountants count sheep to get to sleep?
Because they need a spreadsheet to do the calculations.

Heard at an accounting support group: "It seemed so harmless. I started making journal entries..then, secretly at home, I would post the entries to T accounts, and then I started recording them in ledgers. It just felt so good, and then I started doing financial statements and I couldn't stop....

Why did God create actuaries?
So that accountants could think they had personality.
There are only three types of accountants:
those who can count, and those who can't.
Why did the auditor cross the road?
Because he did it last year.
Why did the auditor cross the road?
Because it was in the audit plan.
Why did the auditor get run over crossing the road?
Auditors never do risk assessment well until after the accident happens.
What does an accountant use for birth control?
His, or her, personality.
What is the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance?
Jail.
Half of accounting is ninety percent correct calculations.
How do you know the financial statements are finished?
The accountant drools out of both sides of his mouth.
Why do accountants make good lovers?
Because they are good with figures, and who deals in figures, must take care of Curves.
What does CPA stand for?
Certified Public Annoyance OR Can't Pass Again

What is the proof that accountants have no imagination?
Naming a firm PriceWaterhouseCoopers.
What is KPMG's idea of "simple advice"(their 1998 advertising theme)?
A several hundred page guide on implementing SFAS 133 - hedge accounting for derivatives and other financial instruments. "Just like your mother's advice".
An auditor qualifying the accounts is like one who arrives after the battle is lost and bayonets the wounded. Of course, then the attorney arrives and strips the bodies.
Old accountants never die, They simply lose their Balance.




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Evil Edna
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Posted - Feb 17 2005 :  2:23:07 PM  Show Profile
I have never come across such a dull group of people as accountants. Working where I do, I sometimes feel as if it is a morgue. In fact, many a dog has walked in and died and the bell doth always toll when the clock strikes 9. Oh my god... And why are accountants always so ugly? Is this a stipulation of their contract? What's with the bad breath? Jesus, chill out on the coffee boys, you're liable to follow through if you're not careful! Never bother going on a social event with accountants, unless you just fancy a kip. 'A pint at lunch' actually consists of a bottle or two of J20 whilst holding onto your paper bag of lunch (normally cheeeeeeeese). And the convo never gets past auditing and year ends. Puh-lease.
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Desert Sleet
Senior

Pakistan
394 Posts

Posted - Feb 18 2005 :  7:16:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Desert Sleet's Homepage
Accountants are definitely not the boring bean counters they are often portrayed as. As with lawyers, they have acquired a range of useful skills through formal education, specific training, and subsequent experience that places them in an incredibly wide range of jobs--jobs that are not only well-paying, but definitely not boring. Forensic accounting, for example, is so absorbingly interesting and even exciting, that it makes Sherlock Holmes being chased around by the Hound of the Baskervilles seem mundane by comparison.

Accountants are involved in a far broader range of activities than just doing your taxes. And if you equate accountancy with book keeping, think again--it's whole different ball game. The forensic accountants, for example, may be engaged in public practice or employed by insurance companies, banks, police forces, government agencies, and many other organizations. They are routinely involved in:

- Investigation and analysis of financial evidence

- Development of computerized applications to assist in the analysis and presentation of financial evidence


- Communication of their findings in the form of reports, exhibits and collections of documents


- Assistance in legal proceedings, including testifying in court as an expert witness and preparing visual aids to support trial evidence


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Azeem Shah Khan
Manager

United Kingdom
706 Posts

Posted - Feb 19 2005 :  11:04:29 PM  Show Profile
Hi,

Just read an article in FT, thought you guys will enjoy it too, so here it goes:


No more Mr Nice tedious Guy


Sathnam Sanghera: No more Mr Nice tedious Guy
By Sathnam Sanghera
Published: February 17 2005 19:09 | Last updated: February 17 2005 19:09


Doctors have ER. Lawyers have Ally McBeal. Accountants, however, have to do with humiliating bit parts such as Keith in The Office - a fat lump who, in his career appraisal, identifies his strength as "accounts" and his weakness as "eczema".

They have always been portrayed badly on TV. Monty Python had Mr Anchovy, an accountant and would-be lion tamer, described as "an extremely dull fellow, unimaginative, timid, easily dominated". Cheers had "boring" Norm, a fat lump who, when asked how life was treating him, replied: "Like it caught me sleeping with its wife."
But now the number-crunchers are fighting back. Allen Blewitt, chief executive of ACCA, the international accountancy body, has created Loot, a slick new TV drama that, for once, doesn't portray accountants as timid, spineless and deathly tedious.

He came up with the concept a decade ago but met with resistance from broadcasters until the Enron and Worldcom scandals when, he says, accountancy became "glamorous". Australia's ABC produced a pilot last year, with former pop star Jason Donovan starring in the central role of forensic accountant Jon Peregrine.

The other day I went to watch the 90-minute episode at ACCA's headquarters in London. From the outset it was apparent that Jon Peregrine, a "financial sleuth and general business rebel", was going to be unlike any accountant seen on TV before. He wasn't fat. He wasn't socially retarded. And he even had a little fashion sense: when not walking around topless in his flat, his jacket of choice was a rather swish leather number.

The plot unravelled rapidly: Peregrine takes it personally when a dodgy initial public offering catches out thousands of small investors and triggers the suicide of his brother-in-law. Together with his genius computer hacking assistant, he won't rest until he finds out who is responsible.

With no Swiss bank account safe, no tax haven secure, tracking down that kind of money can buy you some seriously powerful enemies. And it's not as if Peregrine had a lot of friends to start with. At the same time, he is distracted by another case: a high-profile underworld business figure is missing and Peregrine has been hired by his ex-wife Cynthia to find him ...

Not following? Frankly, neither was I. This synopsis is actually taken from the back of aDVD of Loot, obtained from an Australian website. Donovan, who is playing Caractacus Potts in a West End production of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, also struggled: he confessed in an interview that it took him "around 30 times reading the script to get it".

But Loot does not fail for this reason. It fails for another reason: it is impossible to take Jon Peregrine seriously. And this is not the fault of Blewitt, the scriptwriter, th e producers or Donovan. It is the fault of history.

Accountants have been the butt of jokes for so long (Heard the one about the extrovert accountant? He stares at your shoes . . . ) that they have become intrinsically comic. Making one an action hero, as Blewitt has done, is like making Caractacus Potts a protagonist in a thriller. It is almost impossible to suspend one's disbelief.
I found myself giggling at all the wrong moments: when Peregrine had a gun pointed at him and remarked "We're not cops, we're accountants"; when the gun-toter responded by asking: "You want to tell me what brings an accountant down here?"; when another character remarked: "I'm in insolvency, I'm not a hero".

And I suspect that broadcasters being approached by Loot's producers to turn this "gritty, fast-paced" drama into a regular TV series will have a similar reaction. There's more chance of a Hollywood studio commissioning a movie about accelerated asset depreciation, with Nicole Kidman starring as an auditor.

Doubtless, accountancy trade bodies will be disappointed if this turns out to be the case. They have been trying to glamorise their much-maligned profession for decades in an effort to attract more graduates. A major TV series showing accountancy in a positive light would have been the most useful contribution made since an American trade body suggested the profession bolster its image by changing the word "accountant" to "cognitor".

But they should not despair. If Loot doesn't become accountancy's equivalent of ER or Ally McBeal, they should use its failure as an excuse coolly to re-evaluate the ir PR strategy, looking at their profession as dispassionately as they look at company balance sheets. Doing so, they will discover that accountancy has certain assets and certain liabilities.

Unavoidably, the dullness of the work is a liability. Nowadays, being an accountant involves doing more interesting things than just maintaining and auditing business accounts. But still, this is what most accountants do, most of the time. People like Blewitt are wrong when they say that scandals like Enron have made such work "glamorous". They haven't. They have simply made such work dangerous as well as dull, which is worse than safe and dull.

But accountancy does have assets. First, the work isn't quite as dull as actuarial work. Second, as an accountant you have the potential to earn lots of money. When I look at my friends who have chosen careers in accountancy, the only thing that makes me envy them is that they live in nice parts of London and drive nice sports cars.

Indeed, if accountants want to attract more graduates to their profession, they should give up trying to pretend that what they do is terribly glamorous and exciting. Everyone knows it isn't. Instead, they should publicise the simple fact that when it comes to earning a decent salary, accountants are the ones having the last laugh.
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Desert Sleet
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Pakistan
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Posted - Feb 20 2005 :  12:09:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit Desert Sleet's Homepage
I would agree that bean counters are geeks. (I don't like that term)

However, I would not say this about people in accounting profession. It is true that sometimes you have to be “anal”, especially if you work in audit. The standards are pretty strict and if you don’t stick to them you are going to get hurt. However, this does not prevent people from having fun, if people indeed desire to have fun.

All people are different; this is true for accountants as well as other professions. What I always try to do is to make sure that I am fun to be around. Some people are afraid to relax, because they think this may appear unprofessional. What I try to do is to signal to them that it is OK to relax. Some people can’t relax, that’s just the way they are; you can’t change them.



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ophie
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Pakistan
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Posted - Feb 20 2005 :  2:36:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit ophie's Homepage
It seems that the forum has completely been surrounded my immatures.............. CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH ...... Its quite nice to see theone though ...... where have you been mate ???????????

Edited by - ophie on Feb 20 2005 2:38:18 PM
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Desert Sleet
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Pakistan
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Posted - Feb 20 2005 :  3:47:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Desert Sleet's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ophie

It seems that the forum has completely been surrounded my immatures.............. CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH ...... Its quite nice to see theone though ...... where have you been mate ???????????


I thought I'd pop into say ' Hi ' cos it's been over 2 weeks since u posted here !!....Ophie, if only there was money in being an Insomniac....I'd be raking it in by now :-) Where have u been recently dear.






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ophie
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Posted - Feb 20 2005 :  9:49:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit ophie's Homepage
I was hybernating ......... but speaking frankly ..... I wasnt able to login at my office PC onto this account ..... I dont know what the problem is ...... admin has suggested to clean my browser's cache which I have tried ....... I didnt work obviously .... anyhow ,,,,, its nice to post here again .......
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Azeem Shah Khan
Manager

United Kingdom
706 Posts

Posted - Feb 22 2005 :  12:13:50 AM  Show Profile
good to see you back ophie.


quote:
It seems that the forum has completely been surrounded my immatures.............. CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH ...... Its quite nice to see theone though ...... where have you been mate ???????????



who is immature?
and who is the lucky one? "Its quite nice to see theone though ...... where have you been mate ??????"


regards

"You don't get to choose how you're going to die. Or when. You can only decide how you're going to live. Now."
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Desert Sleet
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Pakistan
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Posted - Feb 22 2005 :  01:44:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit Desert Sleet's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Azeem Shah Khan

good to see you back ophie.


quote:
It seems that the forum has completely been surrounded my immatures.............. CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH ...... Its quite nice to see theone though ...... where have you been mate ???????????



who is immature?
and who is the lucky one? "Its quite nice to see theone though ...... where have you been mate ??????"


regards

"You don't get to choose how you're going to die. Or when. You can only decide how you're going to live. Now."


This subject at hand, seems to be unfamiliar to most of you. So I figured that it might be worthwhile to inform you about that its actually a old article and The One is not back!!.

Azeem/Ophie,
This is a quite old thread and The One posted here about 2 years back exactly on
quote:
May 09 2003 : 10:12:25 PM

This thread was then again brought into discussion by Evil Edna
on exactly
quote:
Posted - Feb 17 2005 : 2:23:07 PM

So The One isnt back but instead one of his previous thread has been revisited and being discussed once again.

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mjenet
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Posted - Mar 14 2005 :  12:15:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit mjenet's Homepage
In response to the original question take a look at the accountancy music charts we have compiled at www.accountancystudents.co.uk and you may change your mind.

We have the following for your amusement:

No 1 > SOX-31 (A Sarbanes-Oxley rap!)

No 2 > KPMG - Our Vision of Global Strategy (Original)

No 3 > Accountancy Shanty

No 4 > The Accountant Song

No 5 > How Could I Live Without Filing Taxes?

No 6 > Ernst & Young Happy Day

No 7 > KPMG - Our Vision of Global Strategy (Jungle Mix)

No 8 > KPMG - Our Vision of Global Strategy (Hard rock version)

No 9 > KPMG - Our Vision of Global Strategy (Teutonic Master Mix)

As you can see the KPMG song is listed 4 times as there are (suprisingly) four different versions!

If you know of any any additional accountancy, audit or tax songs please can you let us know so that we can add them to the list.

To hear any of the above (they play in Windows Media Player) go to
www.accountancystudents.co.uk and you will see the chart at the bottom of the right hand column.

The remaining question is:

By listening to these songs are we laughing with accountants or laughing at accountants?

You decide!

Mark
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Masum
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United Kingdom
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Posted - Mar 16 2005 :  7:20:06 PM  Show Profile
One thing i'd like to know is how has the work of accountants changed through software usage? I mean previously accountants would be making small mistakes in their calculations and this would cause them to start the same thing over again, consuming much of their time. But these days do accountants have to go about calculating things? Don't you just use software which does it all for you? If this is the case what do accountants do on a daily basis during work?

Also, when studying for your ca or whatever, is the content of what you study largely the same as what accountants would study 10 years ago?

I am researching accountancy at the moment as I might get into it. I am a peoples person and like to be around a lot of people. After graduation I worked for a small software house with four boring as hell people. It put me of for life so I just left it. I like to be around many and differnet types of people, hell I had more fun in retail then working with this software firm. What will accountancy be like in the context of my expectations?

I have to say forensic accouting doesn't sound all that. Can someone pull something better out of the hat? What is cooperate recovery and cooperate finanace like? You get to travel the globe, advise cooperate companies and stuff like that right? I'd be grateful if you could tell me what the more livelier fields in accounting are.

Finally, was the conclusion of this thread that accountants and accountancy is boring?
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Masum
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United Kingdom
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Posted - Mar 17 2005 :  7:22:18 PM  Show Profile
Wow! I ask people what the livelier fields in accounting are and get no replies. Do people not come to this site or is everyone silently consenting to accountancy being boring?
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Desert Sleet
Senior

Pakistan
394 Posts

Posted - Mar 18 2005 :  7:19:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Desert Sleet's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Masum

Wow! I ask people what the livelier fields in accounting are and get no replies. Do people not come to this site or is everyone silently consenting to accountancy being boring?



No, don't let your eyes glaze over, it's definitely not as boring as it sounds!

Since the 15th century many distinguished people from a variety of disciplines have written on the subject of bookkeeping and accounting, yet for a very long time it was regarded with some disrespect (now thankfully almost disappeared) amongst academics and the public in general. Such contempt arose primarily from ignorance of the subject. Equally, accountants themselves have sometimes been responsible for spreading the air of mystery and cynicism that surrounds this and many other professions.

Considerable research supports a “confirmation bias,” whereby individuals more heavily weight information that is consistent with an existing perception which is Accountancy beeing boring. Now a days accountancy profession is facing an uphill battle in changing these perceptions; this makes it difficult to generate sufficient interest in those who might otherwise have an aptitude for accounting.


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