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fujistu
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
15 Posts |
 Posted - Apr 11 2011 : 12:11:27 PM
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| no doubt CA is much difficult as compared to ACCA. ACCA is basically a shortcut for early jobs but in CA you have to study at the depth of accountancy which takes much time |
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bilalfca
Junior
Pakistan
78 Posts |
Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 5:09:54 PM
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salam]
ACCAs always crying on every forum, whether a question is asked about audit, cost budgeting, bla bla bla...., Anyone doing ACCA starts discussing that ICAP discriminates them etc etc.... plz guys, don't cry in every forum!
make a forum (and u have already made a lot) and discuss the problems caused to you by ICAP.. that will be nice!
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Muhammad Adnan Arshad
Manager
Pakistan
660 Posts |
Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 1:40:11 PM
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ICAP has taken a bold step and has reduced the exemptions on the basis of ACCA qualification.. I observed during the last many years, that ACCA stream students towards CA (ICAP) has increased a lot as compared to CA (Intermediate - ICAP) students.. So, ICAP has closed a bit this CHOR-DERWAZA..
Furthermore, as far as Pakistan is concerned, ICAP should be a dominating body, at least. kuchh tu Pakistan ka aisa ho, jo Pakistan k ander reh ker b Pakistan mein dominate keray as compared to outsider qualifications.. :) |
Edited by - Muhammad Adnan Arshad on Apr 30 2011 1:41:28 PM |
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syed2011
Unregistered Trainee
United Kingdom
18 Posts |
Posted - May 07 2011 : 1:49:30 PM
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| Great discussions of this post..thanks! |
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aminahsan2002
Junior
Pakistan
54 Posts |
Posted - Jun 21 2011 : 5:04:51 PM
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If we compare ACCA and ICAP, then ACCA is far behind than CA.
1. In Pakistan only ACA can audit the financial statements, ACCA is not eligible to audit the financial statements.
2. Mostly ACCA adopt UK based taxation and Corporate and Mercantile laws , this reduces their ability to deal with tax and corporate matters in Pakistan. ACA's are considered expert in dealing tax and corporate matters in Pakistan.
3. ACCAs do not study the Functional English, Quantitative methods and Economics which reduces their scope to deal with these subjects.
4. The very low standard exam passing criteria also allow an ACCA to pass the exam with selected studies. This fact is also known by the employer and which causes a preference to ACA over ACCA.
5. The number of Qualified Chartered Accountants of ICAP is 5078 which is very very low as compared to a huge amount of ACCAs which shows the importance of ACAs.
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Afeeq
Unregistered Trainee
1 Posts |
Posted - Sep 04 2011 : 12:44:29 AM
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hello..
im an ACCA student and i still have 3papers left..can i work in accounting firm even without completing my ACCA. Do the big 4 accept me? |
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aaravkamr
Unregistered Trainee
United Kingdom
4 Posts |
Posted - Sep 05 2011 : 3:57:54 PM
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hi,
I am new user this post ,
This is very nice post. |
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BILAL.SARDAR
Junior
Pakistan
118 Posts |
Posted - Sep 21 2011 : 8:10:39 PM
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@ Afeeq
i fear u can apply in EY atleast bt do confirm it by contacting them. |
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BILAL.SARDAR
Junior
Pakistan
118 Posts |
Posted - Sep 21 2011 : 8:16:37 PM
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Without any doubt CA is far better than ACCA either within pak or international set-up. |
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qryasser
Unregistered Trainee
11 Posts |
Posted - Sep 30 2011 : 5:49:20 PM
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| na khatam hony wali fazool behass. there is only the one who have relevant and most appropriate accounting and audit knowledge is preferred by employer whatever the professional qualification he has.. |
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tahmans
Unregistered Trainee
38 Posts |
Posted - Oct 13 2011 : 11:40:14 AM
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Originally posted by Umer abdul aziz
Salam.
My name is Umer Aziz.
I have recently ended with my A levels.
I am looking forward towards a career in accountancy.
I have decided to do CA. Would it be better starting with ACCA and then completing CA.?
OR directly into the main stream i.e the modular thing?
I wish to do in the least of time. and also want to go abriad.
Can anyone help me in this matter.
Assiatance will be highly appreciated
i think acca would be better..i say this because acca can be done in the least time period as compared to ca. ca is unpredictable, and with changes in the policy, it will be tougher.. acca is less depressing and recognised in the whole world since its a british qualification.. in pakistan, although ca rules, but acca isnt that bad either...
if you want to do ca later on, you can apply in big 4 and start giving ca exams...so instead of wasting your time completing module a-d in 2 years (or more), you can complete most or whole acca in the same time period...this means you can also visit companies for a job with acca tag, and can also go abroad as you will have a qualification with you...after ca inter, you can not do all this! its not worth it...
and since you are from a levels, you know the british education system, so acca wouldnt be tough for you as far as the format and studies are concerned.
good luck! |
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syed2011
Unregistered Trainee
United Kingdom
18 Posts |
Posted - Oct 13 2011 : 3:14:54 PM
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| Go for CA its good., ACCA advertises itself as "international", the reality is that the ACA has been recognized in Australia and many other countries (outside the United Kingdom) as ACCA. |
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aminahsan2002
Junior
Pakistan
54 Posts |
Posted - Oct 16 2011 : 12:26:21 AM
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| For the information of those persons who consider ACCA better than CA. At present there are only 5322 persons who are qualified Chartered Accountants from ICAP. And ACCA are so much like stones on the road. |
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bilalfca
Junior
Pakistan
78 Posts |
Posted - Nov 23 2011 : 2:43:40 PM
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hey ICAP students: dont take it serious men! Enjoy the discussion!!
ACCA: hahahaha
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Fuzzy_56
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
34 Posts |
Posted - Dec 07 2011 : 4:50:10 PM
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Why most people doing ACCA thinks that they will a get a job in other countries easily . I have 2 questions for ACCAians :
1--- Why would a foreigner employer chooses other nationality ACCAian instead of his own country's ACCAian , also u r not the only one who would be applying for the job , there will be people from other countries too . Do you think you can compete them ?
2--- Why do ACCA seek exemptions of ICAP's CA . ACCA thinks that they are far more superior than Pakistan's CA but crying on every forum that ICAP is creating discrimination b/w CA and ACCA .Why ?
I also notice that most of the people who are near to their completion of ACCA says that they should have done CA rather than ACCA . I also read an ACCAian commenting in a topic on Facebook that even in UK they prefer CA over ACCA .
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Toronto_Boy
Manager
Canada
676 Posts |
Posted - Dec 07 2011 : 7:53:37 PM
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Hi
Your Q1 is kind of interesting so perhaps my reply could satisfy your query. There could be 2 types of foreign countries like one which don't have their own major accounting qualifications such as Middle Eastern countries. The other type of countries are those western countries which have their own major accounting qualifications such as Canada or Australia etc.
Now, as you know ACCA, CIMA, ICAEW have their direct MRAs with qualifications of such western countries, qualified members of ACCA etc. from Pakistan may get membership of these targeted foreign association from Pakistan. This way their chances of employability, mobility, earning potential, immigration, ease in transition, and settlement increase much more in such western countries.
Pakistani members of ACCA/CIMA/ICAEW are also required in gulf countries' job market.
They are also eligible for jobs in Pakistan.
So, foreign qualifications available in Pakistan provide them access to jobs in Pakistan as well as in foreign countries and make transition/ life easy.
As far as competition for job is concerned, it depends on luck, skills, and hardwork.
I hope it helps.
Regards
Note: I have never been a student of ACCA, CIMA, or ICAEW.
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Fuzzy_56
Unregistered Trainee
Pakistan
34 Posts |
Posted - Dec 07 2011 : 11:25:25 PM
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Thanx toronto_boy for ur reply but still I m uncleared .
As far as I know usually CAs of Pakistan has been working in gulf countries for a long time , dunno about ACCAs . On the other hand , in western countries , only Pakistanis are not seeking for job , what about Indians , bangladeshis , sri lanka and other countries , aren't they searching for ? They are better than us in almost every field of life ( Thanks to Status Quo Ante ) . Western people don't like us . They say ' Pakistani can never be a tourist. ' . We are also now labelled as terrorist . Will they still prefer us instead of other countries ?
I also wrote in last para of my previous comment , about the views of Acca finalist and no one should think that finding a job in Pakistan is easy .
Btw what have you doing or are doing ? As ur not an Acca , cima . |
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Toronto_Boy
Manager
Canada
676 Posts |
Posted - Dec 08 2011 : 02:17:32 AM
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Dear
You have raised many points. I would try to reply.
Regarding jobs in gulf countries for ACCA, CIMA, ICAEW, CFA, CIA, and CMA (USA), you may search yourself through internet and at other job forums. All such qualifications are available in Pakistan these days.
On what basis you think that Indians, Bangladeshies, or SriLankans are better than Pakistanies??? Just one example for you, more than 10,000 Pakistani origin doctors are working in USA alone, set aside all other fields and countries. So, why didn't their recruiters prefer other nationals over those Pakistani doctors? Don't you know that Pakistanies are working abroad in almost all fields/ countries? Don't you know that millions of Pakistanies live and work abroad? So, why did their foreign employers recruite them? Presence of Pakistanies in all these fields and foreign countries itself is a proof that they can do the job.
Dear, competition is there in every field and every where. So what. Prepare yourself for that. Otherwise you would be cornered. Are you doing CA (assuming) thinking that there won't be any competition once you complete it? Or to be a better prepared accountant for competition.
Foreign western employers prefer their own designations (if they have) like Canadian employers prefer their own designations. As I said earlier, a Pakistani member of ACCA, CIMA, ICAEW can get foreign designations through MRA. This way he becomes preferred one for foreign employers as compared to other applicants who don't have those required qualifications. For example, a Pakistani ACCA member would get CGA through MRA and would be preferred one for Canadian employers as compared to those who don't have Canadian designations. But then he would have to compete with other qualified/ eligible applicants. Now if you say Pakistani applicants can't compete just because they are Pakistanis then I can't help you.
I don't wanna indulge myself in ACCA v/s CA debate. So, can't reply what ACCAs or CAs say.
Moreover, finding a job has never been easy, in-fact its not even easy abroad. However, candidates who are prepared for competition would carve their share no matter where the job is.
I studied economics, then did CPA (AICPA) and CIA. Now living and working in Canada.
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Edited by - Toronto_Boy on Dec 09 2011 8:19:47 PM |
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awaisaftab
Partner
Pakistan
1109 Posts |
Posted - Dec 12 2011 : 3:24:10 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Toronto_Boy
Dear
You have raised many points. I would try to reply.
Regarding jobs in gulf countries for ACCA, CIMA, ICAEW, CFA, CIA, and CMA (USA), you may search yourself through internet and at other job forums. All such qualifications are available in Pakistan these days.
On what basis you think that Indians, Bangladeshies, or SriLankans are better than Pakistanies??? Just one example for you, more than 10,000 Pakistani origin doctors are working in USA alone, set aside all other fields and countries. So, why didn't their recruiters prefer other nationals over those Pakistani doctors? Don't you know that Pakistanies are working abroad in almost all fields/ countries? Don't you know that millions of Pakistanies live and work abroad? So, why did their foreign employers recruite them? Presence of Pakistanies in all these fields and foreign countries itself is a proof that they can do the job.
Dear, competition is there in every field and every where. So what. Prepare yourself for that. Otherwise you would be cornered. Are you doing CA (assuming) thinking that there won't be any competition once you complete it? Or to be a better prepared accountant for competition.
Foreign western employers prefer their own designations (if they have) like Canadian employers prefer their own designations. As I said earlier, a Pakistani member of ACCA, CIMA, ICAEW can get foreign designations through MRA. This way he becomes preferred one for foreign employers as compared to other applicants who don't have those required qualifications. For example, a Pakistani ACCA member would get CGA through MRA and would be preferred one for Canadian employers as compared to those who don't have Canadian designations. But then he would have to compete with other qualified/ eligible applicants. Now if you say Pakistani applicants can't compete just because they are Pakistanis then I can't help you.
I don't wanna indulge myself in ACCA v/s CA debate. So, can't reply what ACCAs or CAs say.
Moreover, finding a job has never been easy, in-fact its not even easy abroad. However, candidates who are prepared for competition would carve their share no matter where the job is.
I studied economics, then did CPA (AICPA) and CIA. Now living and working in Canada.
Regards
Hi Dear Toronto Boy,
I was too currious to know about your profeessional qualification. Thats good anyhow I am feeling well to talk you after very long time.
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Toronto_Boy
Manager
Canada
676 Posts |
Posted - Dec 12 2011 : 7:23:53 PM
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There would another addition to list of above qualifications soon, InshaAllah.
Anyhow, its good to see your post too... |
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awaisaftab
Partner
Pakistan
1109 Posts |
Posted - Dec 12 2011 : 9:43:12 PM
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| Wish you good luck |
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