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Assalaam o alekum
Mr Guy brush

Then you suggest
I think this is the best way to let people know of a site and i m not marketing an unethical site and i dont think the way i used is also unethical its common practise of every person that if u want to make some thing popular then u post some where

I think if i had post a funny site then your comments will be totally different

Ne ways lets who get the reward no body else Allah is authoritative for giving the decision

May Allah Guide All muslims

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Other answer

Actually the sites u see at the top and at the bottom can get sponsor very easily but Islamic Sites does not

Thats v r the modern Muslims

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Answer to ophelestas

Man I have collected materials from different sources and have tried to cover and see all the aspects by my self and with my team and i have also put a link on the top of every article to report an error

If you think you have solid support against any article then you can report that thing to us

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Webmoxtor

if u can read properly then u mustve noticed that i expressed my disgust at the way you have marketed your website by FLOODING and i repeat FLOODING the messageboard with vaguely titled topics in different areas of the board, but all carrying the same sales pitch. This is considered an unethical gesture on any board on the internet.

As regards to the point you made with respect to the posting of some fun site, i would respectfully say that if that wouldve happend, i still wouldve expressed my displeasure in exactly the same way, or rather in an even harsher way. And besides, there is a bit of a difference between telling ppl about a good website and marketing a website for getting cheap hits, and that difference is of 'Niyat'.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Ne ways lets who get the reward no body else Allah is authoritative for giving the decision

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Please do not and i repeat DO NOT use Allah's name or Islam in trying to create a softer corner for your unethical act in the audience's mind. Seems pretty hypocritical to me.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Actually the sites u see at the top and at the bottom can get sponsor very easily but Islamic Sites does not<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

What i meant in previous post is that u should try to market your website in a proper fashion like the sponsors of those ads which have actually paid to accountancy ppl for displaying their ads. You have again used islam as a sad excuse. Kindly refrain from absuing islam in this way. And i am also dead sure that you havent even contacted these accountancy ppl about giving your ad on this website and instead have taken this cheap route.

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I can show you a number of other website on this forum which go with out any remarks by you.

Whats the point in that

And other thing the use of Islam and Allah what is fact it will remain the even if you try a lot to change the but it will not be changed.

I dont think it is unethical to post on a board to make people aware of my site
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Webmoxtor

if u can read properly then u mustve noticed that i expressed my disgust at the way you have marketed your website by FLOODING and i repeat FLOODING the messageboard with vaguely titled topics in different areas of the board, but all carrying the same sales pitch. This is considered an unethical gesture on any board on the internet.

As regards to the point you made with respect to the posting of some fun site, i would respectfully say that if that wouldve happend, i still wouldve expressed my displeasure in exactly the same way, or rather in an even harsher way. And besides, there is a bit of a difference between telling ppl about a good website and marketing a website for getting cheap hits, and that difference is of 'Niyat'.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Ne ways lets who get the reward no body else Allah is authoritative for giving the decision

May Allah Guide All muslims<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Please do not and i repeat DO NOT use Allah's name or Islam in trying to create a softer corner for your unethical act in the audience's mind. Seems pretty hypocritical to me.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Actually the sites u see at the top and at the bottom can get sponsor very easily but Islamic Sites does not<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

What i meant in previous post is that u should try to market your website in a proper fashion like the sponsors of those ads which have actually paid to accountancy ppl for displaying their ads. You have again used islam as a sad excuse. Kindly refrain from absuing islam in this way. And i am also dead sure that you havent even contacted these accountancy ppl about giving your ad on this website and instead have taken this cheap route.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I can show you a number of other website on this forum which go with out any remarks by you.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

my dear webmoxtor, can u please provide an instance where i have encouraged such shameless kind of marketing, let alone many which u claim? <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> And besides, an unethical act is an unethical act. Why do u justify yourself by the arguement that since everybody else is doing it, so should i. Remember, u have created a website on a topic which hpholds moral values and totally abhors unethical acts, so i feel that its marketing should also be done in a proper fashion and so should u.

kindly provide the appropriate link of that discussion page. Thank you.

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Hi Guybrush

Can I ask you something,,,, do you know or someone else know the total size of accountancy and audit market of Pakistan. I was having discussion with one of my friends and he raised this point, I thought you guys might be of help.
Thanks

zubair

and calm down, not worth the space and time you are wasting.

Zubair

The problem is that Pakistani CA firms arent required to publish their financial results, so it is virtually impossible to ascertain the true size of this industry. My guess is somewhere in between 500-700 million rupee mark minimum for the each of the top firms from their accounting and audit segments, while not considering the consultancy revenues. Firms in the second tier like MYASCO would be making somewhere around 300-450 million and smaller firms even lesser than that, and remember that there are quite a few. So the total market size could be close to somewhere around the 10-12 billion rupee mark.

But then these are all guesses on my part. Waisey btw, why are you asking ....? <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

And I am as cool as ice man... dont worry. I dont lose my temper, atleast not on public forums. <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Hi Guybrush

I was discussing the relative size of markets in south east with friends and Pakistan came up and I had no idea of the market size, I thought you might be the best person as you are in public practice. but i am surprised, I understand that pakistani partnerships cant be more than 20 partners so good money for each partner. I assume your figures also include the revenues earned by companies from their foreign practising partners eg. PWC, KPMG etc.

If you dont mind Can I ask one(Few) more thing(s),,,,almost all the CA companies are associated with a top name in the corporate world.
This association, does it bring significant amount of revenues for the pakistani companies ie, do they get some work or loads of work by being associated to PWC or KPMG. and do you think that there is a strategic logic in combining forces with a smaller/medium sized companies? look, I have asked you a lot and I believe I am oversteping, you dont have to answer it all, but rest assured that the info. will be used for constructive and good purposes.

Thanks
zubair

When did i ever say that i was in public practice Zubair?!! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Anyways, if i am not mistaken that limit of 20 partners for professional firms was lifted some time back. Can somebody please confirm this? thnx.

Yes, local firms do use their affiliations with their parent firms as a leverage to capture clients and i feel rightly so. Some of them use this leverage lightly, some like KPMG Taseer Hadi quite aggressively. I remember some years back, they used this affliation to grab Philips and Shell which had been AFF's clients for a long time.

I am not sure that they get large shares of income from their parent firms. My guess is that its the other way around, ie the local chapters have to pay a share of their income as royalty/membership fee to the parents.

Hey, you dont have to be this apologetic when asking questions yaar <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>. Remember that we are all here for exchanging ideas, opinions and sharing of knowledge. So go ahead and ask whatever u like. If i wont be able to answer it, somebody else might.

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Hi Guybrush

I have no idea, what makes me think that you are in public practice. perhaps your contributions to the forum made me think so.

and I will come back to the benefits of foriegn alliance later on, I think pakistani companies are losing out enormously.

thanks

zubi

It doesnt matter whether they are losing or gaining, local firms will keep sucking up to foreign firms for affiliation because of corporate Pakistan's ongoing love affair with foreign nametags.

Bas gorey ka naam laga lu aur business tumhaarey paas aata rahey ga.

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Being associated with foreign practices, we are trying to redistribute the business already available within pakistan. No new business flows to the country. However, If big practices of pakistan would have alligned with one of the smaller or medium sized practices (remember even a 10 partner practice is considered small practice in UK) then we stand much better chance of winning new business from these companies.

Thanks
zubair

ummm... i dont seem to get your point here. Can u please elaborate on this a bit?

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Hi Guybrush

Re your post. I will put down my complete understanding within the next couple of days,,,hope its ok with you.

Yaar, I am concerned about SMR, where is he? rumors circulating that he.........do you know something.....

finally, i saw a post by someone saying that some people are proud of knowledge and they dont want informaiton sharing and all that stuff........, absolutely rubbish. I think everybody is very helpful and sometimes people are pressed for time or working to a tight deadline that delays occur, hope everybody understands.

Thanks
zubair

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