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- Apocalypse - 10-31-2004
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Replace Canada with Gulshan and the rest is fine.
By the way same goes for Apocalypse as well, just the grades weren't as good.
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but what is bad with
Maths-------A
Accounting--A
Urdu--------B
General-----C
and if anybody is interested in candies should contact me
- aliweb - 11-02-2004
Aamir Liaquat Hussain is a taqiya baaz shia. He is not a scholar just a con man. Very dangerous. His elder brother holds one of the biggest Majlis of Muharram in Karachi where they shed crocodile tears.
- Pracs - 11-02-2004
Just being shia is bad enough,.. I dont see how..?? I am not a shia myslef but dont't hold any grudge against another sect.
"Allah does not change the state of people unless they change what is within themselves" Quran 1311
- aliweb - 11-02-2004
Brother Pracs
<b>Fatwas</b>
Please visit the following link to see fatwas/sayings of by renowned personalities including
(1)Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH)
(2)Hazrat Ali (RA)
(3)Imam Shafi(RA)
(4) Imam Malik (RA)
and many many more.....
http://http//www.kr-hcy.com/Historicald/Fatawa/fatawa.shtml
<b>Shia Beliefs</b>
Some of the shia beliefs are given below
1. "Bad'ah"; ALLAH tells a lie. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No.1, Page No. 148. A Shia doctrine.)
2. All Imams are equal in rank and status to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w). (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 270)
3. There are seventeen thousand Ayah in real Quran. (Al Shafi, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 616)
4. Sahabah (r.a) became infidel by denying the divine right (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali. First three caliph and other Sahabas became infidel by denying the divine right of (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali. (Asool Kaafi, Page No. 420)
5. All the people rejected Islam after the death of the Prophet except three. Miqdad, Abu Zar and Salman Farsi. (Quran Majeed by Maqbool Hussain Dehlevi, Page No. 134)
6. "Difference between ALLAH and Ali". (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 66)
7. We are the eyes of the God in his creature and the final authority in all human beings. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 145)
8. No one possess complete knowledge of Holy Quran except Imams. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 228)
9. Hazrat Abu Bakr (r.a) could not recite Kalma at the time of his death. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 211)
10. When Our Qaim (12th Imam) gets up, Humira (Ayesha) will be raised from the dead so as to be whipped her due punishment, and so as to avenge the daughter of Muhammad (s.a.w), Fatima. (Al Shafi, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 108)
11. Ali is God. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 66)
12. The Hujjat ( Ultimate proof ) of God can not be established without Imam. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 177)
13. "Changes in Quran for Drinker Khulafa-e-Rashideen". (Translation Of Quran Majeed by Maqbool Hussain Dehlevi, Page No. 479)
14. Shaitan was the first to sworn the oath of allegiance from Abu Bakr in the mosque. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 30)
15. "An accusation of poisoning to Prophet by Ayesha and Hafsa". (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Page No. 118)
To see more beliefs please visit the following URL
http://http//www.kr-hcy.com/shia/kufr.shtml
<b>Khutbah</b>
A historic Khutbah of Sheikh Ali Abd-ur-Rahman al-Huzaifi, Imaam of Masjid-e-Nabavi on
15th Dhu-l-Qadah, 1418 Hijri / 13th March 1998 (In Masjid Nabawi).
http://http//www.kr-hcy.com/statichtml/files/104171414283197.shtml
If you want any more proofs then let me know.
- smraza - 11-02-2004
I am unable to understand your view Mr. aliweb.... what kind of discussion has been started,
What is the meaning of your posts.
SMR
- smraza - 11-02-2004
Further, you are wrong that Dr. Aamir is taqiya baaz Shia,
you supported your comment by mentioning that his brother holds majlis during moharram,
brother i would like to tell you that his brother is converted, not inheritic.
SMR
- Mr. Whappaaaa - 11-02-2004
OK yaar ALIweb plzz leave the topic although i am not a shiyaa but this is not a discussion forum ragarding religious matter so i request all of ppl here in this forum plzzzzzzzz FOR GOD SAKE leave the topic...
MR WHAPPAAAA
- farazthegreat - 11-03-2004
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OK yaar ALIweb plzz leave the topic although i am not a shiyaa but this is not a discussion forum ragarding religious matter so i request all of ppl here in this forum plzzzzzzzz FOR GOD SAKE leave the topic...
MR WHAPPAAAA
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I totally agree.
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Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
- Azeem Shah Khan - 11-03-2004
This isn't an appropriate place to discuss there issues specially when some members get tooooooo excited.
you can always share your views (even if they are of extreme nature) on 1 to 1 basis
regards
azeem (dont belong to any FIRQA)
- Pracs - 11-03-2004
Please leave the topic to its original discussion and lets not bring in the shia sunni debate here.
We are all professionals here and lets act like one. We should act more on the lines of a responsible citizen than act like some one on the street.
Ali I am not a shia, but you do have some misconceptions about the shia community, I do have some shia friends. However, lets not discuss it here any more
"Allah does not change the state of people unless they change what is within themselves" Quran 1311
- aliweb - 11-03-2004
Brothers
We are living in the age of fitnas. You have to be aware of all these to save your eeman. Religion comes first and then anything else. You cannot just say that we have to be responsible citizens. To become a responsible citizen you have to be strong in your religion.
Most of the people in this age talk like this that we have to be responsible citizen, be tolerant, be a law abiding citizen e.t.c. and nobody wants to talk about ones belief that will take a person into HEAVEN or HELL. It is like giving your head inside the sand and thinking that all is well.
We can be tolerant with Hindus, Sikhs, Christians e.t.c because they have there own religion but when someone distorts our religion, curses the noble companions of Holly Prophet (PBUH), disgraces our beloved mother umhatulmomineen Hazrat Ayesha (RA) then we cannot sit keep quite.
- smraza - 11-03-2004
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Dear Aliweb,
I respect your views, but dear donot forget that there are 72 or 73 sects in Islam, you must be following one,
I would like to tell you that every sect has strong basis and supporting evidences from sunnah, hadiths and Quran.......
As Rasool e Akram said there will be ____ sects in my Ummat, only one will go to heaven.
and I can bet that every sect claims that they will go to heaven, remaining will go to hell.
If any hindu or cristian or Jew is converted as a Muslim, the first problem he faces is join which sect????????????????????
doesnt it seem funny, I m not a shia, not a sunny, not barelvi, etc. etc. etc., even i dont claim myself to be a muslim, just due to all these sects....
So dear it is a very debatalbe issue, which cannot be continued at least on this forum.
If u have any reservations about any sect, then simply go to the Aalim of that particular sect, discuss every matter with him, either Qail him or accept his views.
Butttttttttt, please keep in your mind, that you must go with a view that if he Qail you then u will adopt his sect.
SMR
- aliweb - 11-03-2004
Yes I agree there will be 73 sects but then again like I said before we are living in an age of fitnas and it is not easy to live. It is our duty to find the right sect nobody will come and tell you that this sect is on the right path. You have to find it for yourself and for that you have to look into the Quran and Sunnah.
I would say that your knowledge regarding fiqh and sects is very weak like most of the people.
Whoever is on the right path one thing is for sure that no religion teaches you to curse, send lanats, give abuses, disgrace the great companions of Holy Prophet(PBUH) and Umhatulmomineen (RA) except shia ithna ashri.
One golden rule of following a sect is to follow the majority for Allah never let majority of Muslims to stray. So whoever is on majority stick to it. There is also a hadith regarding it.
- Azeem Shah Khan - 11-03-2004
Dear all
Despite of our mutual agreement not to discuss this affair on this forum we are posting OUR version of Islam.
Should anyone wants to discuss this issue with any particular person then please do so on 1 to 1 basis.
Best Regards
Azeem
- AvgJoe - 11-03-2004
Dear Aliweb,
Although, I respect ur views, I really dont think that this TOPIC is the place to discuss them ! This topic was & is ABOUT DR. AAMIR LIAQAT HUSSAIN !! If u want to u can initiate a seperate discussion by posting a seperate topic. I can then clear some of ur views & misconceptions about Shias.
Cheers,
AvgJoe
PS By the way, I m NOT a Shia....if thts what u r thinking !