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- maani - 12-30-2004
yaar the only problem is with the selection system...at domestic level tallented players are being ignored...and players like Imran
Farahat are opening the batting for Pk...
Ace
- n/a6 - 12-30-2004
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Actually alongside the selection system the problem also lies int the Domestic Level... Our players arent given Enough Exposure to be able to cope with the Intense Pressure of International Expereince...
And ctually Imran Farhat isnt such a Bad Player and i have seen his match Against Pakistan Team when he was playing For Pakistan A ... Imran Blasted Pakistan Alll Over The Park. It was a wonderfull Site....
But he wasnt given ernough exposure and likewise he isnt performing well in the international level as there is a hell of a difference btw Inter and Domestic level.
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- bilal azhar - 12-31-2004
imran farhat is a player of flat wickets of sub continent.he cannot play on australian wickets.one should ask selectors why Taufeeq umar is not in the side.he is certainly a better player than imran farhat,yasir hamed and even salman butt.he averges over 45,and has a very solid technique.he scored a magnificiant 150 against south africa in south africa.
even a player like asim kamal is a better player than imran farhat and yasir hamed.
bilal
- maani - 12-31-2004
yaar all the players like Imran Farhat...Yasir Hameed...Taufeeq Umer...they have get enough chance to show whether they are good player or not...they have proved that they are "safarishi"...atleast now the board should give chance to new players "safarishi"
Ace
- n/a6 - 12-31-2004
Here is a article in The News Newspaper About Pakistani team , As it has been told by Salim malik ...
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> LAHORE Banned former captain Salim Malik on Thursday blamed a lack of maturity in both Pakistanâs cricket team and its management for the recent crushing defeats against Australia.
"I am deeply disappointed by the manner we lost both the Tests in Australia and it was mainly due to lack of maturity in boys who are otherwise very talented," Malik told AFP.
"The batsmen have not taken their full turn at the crease and have been too emotional," he said.
Pakistan were thrashed by 491 runs in the first Test at Perth and despite a better performance lost the second Test in Melbourne by nine wickets on Wednesday, in turn losing the three-match series.
The 41-year-old Malik, who was banned for life on charges of match fixing in 2000 and has since kept a low profile, said Pakistan lost after making a good start in the two games. "Pakistan had the upper hand in both the matches as they started off well but due to lack of maturity they failed to press the Australians hard. Besides the team, the management and Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) lack maturity as they have appointed a foreign coach, Bob Woolmer, which is not our culture," said Malik.
A stylish middle-order batsman, Malik made 5,768 runs in 103 Tests and 7,170 in 283 One-day Internationals until his ban. He was charged with offering money to Australian trio Shane Warne, Tim May and Mark Waugh during Australiaâs tour of Pakistan in 1994. Malik denied the charges and was initially cleared on lack of evidence in 1995 but further allegations resurfaced two years later and Pakistanâs government ordered a high court judge to carry out an inquiry.
The two-year probe banned Malik for life and fined him one million rupees (14,000 dollars). His appeal was rejected by Lahore High Court and is pending with the Supreme Court, where it may be heard next month.
Malik accused Warne of being negative on the field in the current series. "He is a negative bowler and tries to frustrate the batsman by bowling round the legs. I used to play him with ease," said Malik, who was dismissed just once in five Tests by the champion leg-spinner.
"Because I had trained with Pakistanâs great leg-spinner Abdul Qadir I had no problems against Warne. I think Sri Lankaâs Muttiah Muralitharan is a better bowler because he comes good even when a pitch doesnât suit spin bowling," Malik said and added, "Warne has never been good against India and if our batsmen played him with patience he wouldnât get as many wickets as he gets against us."
Malik, who plans to open a cricket academy in Lahore, said he would ask Qadir to teach youngsters how to play leg-spin.
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- maani - 12-31-2004
hi...
Inzi says he is fit now to play the 3rd match...
it really dosen't makes sense
Ace
- n/a6 - 12-31-2004
So when will the 3rd andd final test began ....... thanks......
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- maani - 12-31-2004
in 2005...hehhehe
Ace
- bilal azhar - 12-31-2004
mani, can u tell me the name of some new players knocking at the door.
i am afraid we dont have any.we have almost tried every opener avaiable in the last two or three years.here is the list of these openers.
(1)Muhammad hafiz
(2)Taufeeq umar
(3)Salim Elahi
(4)Shahid afridi
(5)Imran nazir
(6)imran farhat
(7)yasir hamed
(8)salman butt
(9)Muhammad wasim
(10)wajaht ullah wasti
(11)Faisal athar
i feel that Taufeeq umar is the best among them.salman butt comes second.
bilal
- maani - 01-01-2005
hi...Bilal kia in 11 players k ilawa Pakistan main cricket khatam ho gaii hai...yeh sab tou safarshi hain...Pakistan ki har sarak, har ground mein cricket ho rahi hai...
Ace
- maani - 01-01-2005
Imran Khan commented once about Imran Nazir...that if this player borne in Australia...he d be a superstar today...that means we ve wasted that tallented boy...
Ace
- n/a6 - 01-01-2005
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Imran Khan commented once about Imran Nazir...that if this player borne in Australia...he d be a superstar today...that means we ve wasted that tallented boy...
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U r very right.. we have just wasted the talent of Imran Nazir byu constantly gettint him In and Out of the Team...
Taufiq Umar is a good batsman and is beeing wasted by Pakistan, Salman Butt is a good batsman too and so are some of the othes. But this is not where the List of openers Ends and one Batsman Is missing among them ie Naveed Latif , who scored a 100 in ODI against Srilanka.
There are many players who r wasted and some of them doesnt actuallly join Cricket as a profession and likewise gets Wasted .... Like Me.....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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- bilal azhar - 01-01-2005
mani,how can u say that players like Taufeeq umar,salman butt,imran nazir,shahid afridi,muhammad wasim,yasir hamed and imran farhat are all safarashi.did they tell u personally.
i also want to go in the pakistan side.please tell me how to get safarash to go into the pakistan side.how much i have to pay.i think u must know the procedure judging by ur comments.
what i am trying to say is that these are the players playing as openers in our domestic cricket and they have performed exceptionally in the domestic cricket.That is why they are in the team,they are not safarshi.they are our best openers in the domestic cricket but unfortunately no body has been able to cement there place in the national side.Either our domestic pitches are very docile or bowlers are very poor.that is why a player like imran farhat who scored a 250 in a domestic match just before the australian tour,has not been able to cross 20 runs in australi.
i agree that some very good players fail to get into the domestic side due to some financial reasons or safarash.u can go into a club side in pakistan through safarash but u cannot go to national side throuh safarash provided that u are a son of Tauqir Zia.
bilal
- n/a6 - 01-01-2005
Hey dont get Angry.. Maani actually didnt meant that all of them were Safarashi but Mind it most of them are....
U r right only Safarish cant guarantee u a space in our National team,, but Even some Good performances without Safarish wont guarantee u a place in the side.....
So in order to guarantee a place in our side u need to be a Good Player and have a Solid Safarish in ur Back......
I already told u that some good players are wasted and the Exposure and pressure at domestic Level is not enough and likewise a player who scored a marvellous 250 in a domestic match couldnt score even 20 in a international Match......
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> mani,how can u say that players like Taufeeq umar,salman butt,imran nazir,shahid afridi,muhammad wasim,yasir hamed and imran farhat are all safarashi.did they tell u personally.
i also want to go in the pakistan side.please tell me how to get safarash to go into the pakistan side.how much i have to pay.i think u must know the procedure judging by ur comments.
what i am trying to say is that these are the players playing as openers in our domestic cricket and they have performed exceptionally in the domestic cricket.That is why they are in the team,they are not safarshi.they are our best openers in the domestic cricket but unfortunately no body has been able to cement there place in the national side.Either our domestic pitches are very docile or bowlers are very poor.that is why a player like imran farhat who scored a 250 in a domestic match just before the australian tour,has not been able to cross 20 runs in australi.
i agree that some very good players fail to get into the domestic side due to some financial reasons or safarash.u can go into a club side in pakistan through safarash but u cannot go to national side throuh safarash provided that u are a son of Tauqir Zia.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" size=2 id=quote>
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- ali4u3 - 01-01-2005
pray 4 our players...)
and dun say this kay ...
PAKISTAN NAY APNI AUKAT DIKHA di....
its not gud
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