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Did Yousuf Adil deserve DTT Membership? - jbladeus - 10-21-2002
Can anybody comment on this situation?
In my humble opinion... they did not!
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- Imtiaz Iqbal - 10-22-2002
Who r u to set the standards. DTTI is not a petite firm. They must have taken all necessary diligence and gathered knowledge to decided to wheather to gave their membership to MYAS.
Bye the way I question your authority to give such an statement (mistakenly written as humbly).
Edited by - imtiaz iqbal on 22 Oct 2002 040921 AM
- jbladeus - 10-22-2002
I am not setting any standards.... quite the contrary!
what i am saying is that i have come to observe the working style of the MYAS in the past and i found it to be not up to the standard of the big four (5?) firms here in Pakistan. And my opinion (yes... it is still humble! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> ) is based on those observations.
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- rover - 10-23-2002
If MYAS don't derserve DTT memebership due to poor quality work, which else firm should be their choice for membership.
- rover - 10-23-2002
If MYAS don't derserve DTT memebership due to poor quality work, which else firm should be their choice for membership.
- Sameer - 10-23-2002
I have heard that Seedat Hyder also tried to bid for DTT's membership, but they were cut out of the race by a negative presentation given to the ppl of DTT by a partner of a third firm whose name i wouldnt like to mention here.
hehehe... if they were good enough for Arthur Andersen previously or are now good enough for Ernst and Young.... then maybe they did deserve DTT's membership more than MYAS!
- adnan - 11-12-2002
yes they desrve coz DTT is also not much better than them, if some one happened to c their working in other countries of the region
- Tough - 11-16-2002
I work for MYAS and know quite a lot about their style of work and since I have completed my training from AFF , I carry some of the expereince gained there to MYAS. I find that I am part of a fast growing firm in the field of audit & business advisory. While we are keeping pace with others in building the necessary knowledge base and expertise required to serve our clients, due to efforts of our partners, remarkable progress in consultancy work has left all other firms behind MYAS.
So all u kids there, its time to study more about a firm that you blindly brag about whether it deserves or does not deserve anything. Do you think you deserve to think like this at this stage of your young careers?
Chow
- jbladeus - 11-16-2002
I've had experience of working with MYAS during a co-audit (no... i am not going to name the client!!<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>). Although the firms had distributed the balance sheet and p&l heads, but the work of MYAS was so unreliable that we had to perform testing on their heads too.
And the most interesting thing was that in the end, their staff just copied our working paper files to put something in front of their partners.
Talk about being "Shah se barh kar shah ka wafadaar"... u sure are being one.. Toughy!!
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And i am a qualified CA... so i think that i AM at a stage where i can form opinions about some good-for-nothing-copy-catting firm!
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- Pracs - 11-23-2002
In reply to Mr. Adnan...
I think I am not very much qualified to "rate" MYA.... and must take for facts what has been put down on this forum.
However, since I am working For a DTT office outside Pakistan , I must day that Mr. Adnan's opinion about the firm is unfounded and untrue. D&T is now rated at no.2 on the BIG 4 scale, just behind PWC. DTT also happens to be the fastest growing Big 4. Apart from this it also happens to be the only Big 4 (including Andersen ofcourse) without scores of financial scams taling their past and present. DTT approach to ABAS and Tax advisory is one of the most professional with strict criterion to client retention. Adding to this we also happen to have the most advanced audit software, which uses enabling software technology that ensures consistent implementation of DTT's audit approach on a worlwide basis. Something ackowledged by the other three Big 4.
Some of our major World wide Clients are Microsoft Corporation, GM Motors, Sun Microsystems, Procter & Gamble, Dow Chemicals, Merill Lynch, Mashreq Bank, Kenwood, Ericsson, Itoshu corporation, Burger King, Sheratorn hotels, Grundfos, etc....
I think since a majority of ex andersen firms went to E&Y in this region, it was only natural for Sidat to merge with FRRM.
Like to hear more on this subject.
Cheerio
- ozair - 11-26-2002
dont jump on the opinion unless you ppl have very good understanding of the background of MYAS. I have been there in their consultancy department for almost a year and I have found their working environment so conducive that even i didnt think to switch over to other big five firms. the partners are very supportive and their callibre is very high..thanks to shah sahib he is a born genious i would rather say...he has a command over code of corporate governance and audit and advisory services...i enjoyed there very much working under shah sahib and Mushtaq Hirani...I can say that Yousuf Adil and only Yousuf Adil deserved the membership of DTT..and i would say that everybody has a right to go forward like we ppl do...so did the Yousuf Adil by getting the membership of DTT.. I will congratulate them on their success and clinching it from Sydat and Anjum Asim...we all pray for its continued success and prosperity ...Aaamin...
- jbladeus - 11-28-2002
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana" id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>the partners are very supportive and their callibre is very high..thanks to shah sahib he is a born genious i would rather say...he has a command over code of corporate governance and audit and advisory services...i enjoyed there very much working under shah sahib and Mushtaq Hirani...I can say that Yousuf Adil and only Yousuf Adil deserved the membership of DTT..
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My dear Ozair
You really must be getting paid quite nicely for this <b>boot-licking </b>attitude of yours... Born Genius... Command over Corporate Governance... my goodness!!! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
I dont dispute the right of MYAS of going for DTT membership. But if u can read properly my point here in this topic is whether MYAS deserves DTT membership or not. I just want to talk about their working style over here and all you <b>chamchaas</b> are doing over here is just singing praises for the partners of MYAS like some brainwashed captured spies.
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- ozair - 12-01-2002
hello Guybrush
it seems that u didnt brush ur teeth[8D, well u may be spreading dirty plagues to this forum..well its better that u should keep urself away with your dirty evil and egocentric presence, other wise the other innocents might come into ur egocentric circle.
you dont know how to talk in a froums and what kind of words to use..your arguments are pathetic and ur accusations are ruthless like your face might be...your comments reflect your internal and paranormal mechanism which others dont have any control...
i have a little advie for you..please keep urself away with this forum and let the gentlemen talk here not the third sex like you..
iam sorry my words will hit you a bit and u might roar alot but this is based on fact and reality...
take care<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
- admin - 12-02-2002
<b><font color=blue>Dear Ozair
Although this is an open forum and we believe in democratic values and also believe that everybody has a right to speak their minds. But we DO NOT and WILL NOT allow profanities being hurled at our members. You yourselves in one sentence describe this forum as a clean place where professionals meet, and then in the next you pass comments which were most drerogatory in nature and were an abuse of member's rights.
In our opinion, the member Guybrush commented lightheartedly on the profesional attitude, and was not meant to attack anyone personally. We request you to take it as a joke and not pass any comments which come under the definition of abuse of member's rights.
Thank you and please continue the discussion
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- ozair - 12-06-2002
Dear Administrator
i dont have any intention to hit anybody and loot at my first comments. it really didnt bother anyone except Mr. Guy Brush who thinks himself very champion of forums but with his response against my comments like "Boot Licking Attitude" and "Chamchas". well you ought to look these comments before getting to me. is this the professional attitude....? and if any one is serious and talking good which he found any one ...is it bad...? is it some thing which should be humiliated in this way....iam sorry but i would say...that he might have some personal disgrace and bad experiences with Yousuf Adil for that he is hitting every one...who go for praising it...and as u accepted that its a professional forum...then we must talk professionally and answer others in the same style in which he is talking....
i feel sorry if my comments hurt anyone but iam a gentleman and i dont hear wrong words ffrom any side.
Best Regards