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- Muhammad Amir - 11-13-2007
Thanks
- Sarfaraz - 11-13-2007
U R WELCOME
plz mail me @ sar285@gmail.com so we can mail each other alos
- kamranACA - 11-14-2007
Dears,
Doctor Zakir Naik is a learned scholar.
I like him very much.
Thank you Sarfraz for posting his discussion.
Regards,
Kamran.
- Muhammad Amir - 11-14-2007
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Doctor Zakir Naik is a learned scholar.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
No doubt, but all of his thoughts can not be appreciated at all, waysay bhe FITNO KA ZAMANA hay...
Regards,
Muhammad Amir
- kamranACA - 11-14-2007
Yes it appears on reading ur post keh Fitno Ka zamana hai.
Regards,
Kamran
- Sarfaraz - 11-15-2007
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- Sarfaraz - 11-15-2007
Acha amir bhai aik aur cheez ap ne note ki ho gee jiss ka hadees number bhi quote kia hai woh Dr. Zakir naik ne
Ap ne dekha ho ga k according to sahi ahadees Asar ka waqt 1 misal par start ho jata hai so tamam muslmaan ummat including Malki, Shafi, Hanbali, Ahle hadith or whatever sab ka iss baat par ijma hai k asar ka waqt 1 misal hai
lekin aik school of thought hai jo nahi manta aur koi reason bhi nazar nahi aati k kyon nahi manta
so according to that school of thought pakistan main jab according to Rasul ALLAH sale la hu alaehe wasalam asar ka waqt khatam ho jata hai woh log azanain dena shroo kartay hain aur obviously namaz ko uss k waqt k baad parhtay hain
plz batain aisa kyon hota hai?
- kamranACA - 11-15-2007
Hain !!!
Aisa bhi hota hai??
I really dont know.
Amir will definitely explain.
Regards,
Kamran.
- Muhammad Amir - 11-17-2007
Bhai Sarfaraz Meri Nazar Say To Aysa Koi School Of Thought Nahi Guzra and Remember School Of Thought means(Hanfi/Shafie/Hunbali/Malki/Gher Mouqalid)...Agar app kisi aysy School of thought ka name Jantay hann to mujh ko zaror batain....Ye bhi hoo sakta hay kay koi reason woh app ko na batatay hoon(Dar kay maray) warna koi na koi to reason to ho ga hi...
Waysay dear sarfaraz(Conversion from one religion to another and similarly from one sect to another is very very difficult) I mean koi bhi apny tareeqay nahi chornay wala(jab bid'ati bhi bidat ko sawab samajh kar karain aur mana karnay walon ko wahabi aur Gustak kahain to phir meri batt soo fesad sahi ho gy ge) and we should leave these tiny matters aside and we should come to unite ourselves for while Ummat-e-Muslima(and as per <b>Dr. Zakir Naik kay Allah has made you muslim nothing else</b>, although he has divided you in different origons and different nations but he has prohibited any "QUOM PARASTI", and "MASLAK PASANDI")
So why not we talk about unity rather then talking about differences
Regards,
Muhammad Amir
- Schuaeb - 11-18-2007
It is usually beleived that Asar's time ends some fifteen minutes before sunset. Now some people say their prayer as soon as the time starts..preaching of Imam Shafi. While others wait for some time, their logic is to make it sure that the prayer's time has started. This is linked with preachings of Imam Abu Hanifa. I don't think this should make much difference, one should follow what he feels appropriate. For the sake of differing with other sects this gap (time for saying prayer) has been widened by our blessed Maulvis.
- Sarfaraz - 11-18-2007
Acha amir bhai aik aur cheez ap ne note ki ho gee jiss ka hadees number bhi quote kia hai woh Dr. Zakir naik ne
Ap ne dekha ho ga k according to sahi ahadees Asar ka waqt 1 misal par start ho jata hai so tamam muslmaan ummat including Malki, Shafi, Hanbali, Ahle hadith or whatever sab ka iss baat par ijma hai k asar ka waqt 1 misal hai
lekin aik school of thought hai jo nahi manta aur koi reason bhi nazar nahi aati k kyon nahi manta
so according to that school of thought pakistan main jab according to Rasul ALLAH sale la hu alaehe wasalam asar ka waqt khatam ho jata hai woh log azanain dena shroo kartay hain aur obviously namaz ko uss k waqt k baad parhtay hain
plz batain aisa kyon hota hai?
Aur mere ghar k pass jo molvi sahab hain woh Hanafi hain aur woh nahi mantay
According to following
As far as your specific query regarding the timing of Asr Salah is concerned, it is mentioned in Sunan Abu Dawood Vol. 1 Chapter No. 147 Hadith No. 393,
Narrrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas
The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said Gabriel (pbuh) â¦. prayed the Asr Salah with me when shadow of everything was as long as itselfâ¦.. On the following day he prayed the Asr Prayer with me when his shadow was twice as long as himselfâ¦.. Then turning to me he said Muhammad, this is the time observed by the prophets before you, and the time is anywhere between these two times.
Jab 2 misal par asar ka waqt khatam ho jata hai woh uss waqt ko time k start hona kahtay hain
mujhe abhi tak iss ki reason nahi mili ....