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KHUSH QISMATEE - javed - 02-14-2009
I had been waiting for weeks that regular senior columnists Nazir Naji, high respected honest scholars like Dr. Israr Ahmed or regular letter writers like Col. Riaz Jafri etc would open their lips and pen on a most serious topic but after much awaiting perforce this common man, a clerk not any experienced letter writer, had to initiate. To this common man, a life long clerk, the issue involved is most serious and of shameful but it appears that our lives have become so materialized that such serious shameful issues, rather points to serious ponder, have today no significance in our life. The shame is even the religious leaders have put their eyes the other side towards the agricultural land allotted to them.
2. The countryâs well known, reputed and serious columnist Hamid Mir whose writings or talk show are mostly credible, in his recent column in daily Jang appearing 8 December 2008 under the above titles tells that recently a Khush Qismat Pakistani Federal Minister got the rare honour an invitation from the Saudi Government to join a small team of most Khush Qismats selected to wash/clean inside of ALLAHâs Home âKhana Kabbahâ. This is done by Saudi Government annually when it invites a very few selected Muslim from world over. Last year for this two lucky Pakistani brothers Mirza Ishtiaq Baig and Mirza Ikhtiar Baig were selected. I do remember in his article Mirza stated how the Saudi Ambassador in Pakistan himself a high profile elite dignitary was so tearful that he despite being a Saudi had not that good luck so far. To my personal belief no one can go or visit two Holy cities irrespective of having all sort of resources unless an invitation is from HIM. I have with my own eyes seen while going to Umrah that having completed all formalities including immigration clearance etc a companion just went a few metres away to see the sight at the Saudi border when the bus left him.
Hamid Mir discloses that a Supreme Court judge had a keen desire to get this Khush Qismati. What he did was he âgotâ the invitation of the Khush Qismat invitee Federal Minister and not merely cheating the Pakistani law of travel but also cheat the Saudis traveled in wrong name and thus posing himself as Khush Qismat invited Federal Minister entered into the House of ALLAH. He did not thus merely cheated the countryâs law but in fact he cheated ALLAH the Great.
But the point is, is the actually invited Federal Minister Khush Qismat or the concerned Judge. To me the most Baad Qismat is the invitee Federal Minister who did not avail of the rear ALLAH sent invitation. There can not even be remotest doubt on his Baad Qismatiee. But the real serious point is that all we know there is nothing free in this material life. On what price the SC Judge purchased this Khush Qismati? None of our SC judges has so much wealth to buy this Khush Qismati through cash payment. What a Judge has? In kind! So the issue is what price the Judge paid to the Federal Minister invitee in exchange of this invitation card and in what shape? A judge can only deliver justice. Our Ministers mostly are involved in corruption, are NAB-zadas. So it is a point to ponder for every one that in what shape the Judge paid the price? By favouring in a case or what else? If our SC judge can dare cheat ALLAH the Great how can the citizens, at least I, can trust one such a judge.
Ashfaq Ahmed said that not the illiterate but the literate gave the maximum possible damage to this country. There is no doubt in it. Educated like Hamid Mir are in fact in a way the criminals of this unfortunate nation that while for earning popularity they do occasionally disclose such pieces but for their âexchange benefitâ keep the full details or the names of such culprits undisclosed. Hamid Mir in almost each of his Capital Talk may it be terrorism or finance touches the judiciary issue but had the real remotest sincerity towards the judiciary he would at least not concealed the name of the such a Judge. It might be Khush Qismati of the Judge concerned but without any remotest doubt baad qismati of the nation having such a judge, a minister and to a good extent having such type of columnists.
- Muhammad Amir - 02-15-2009
I think we should not follow such a non sense from a traitor and two faced opportunist. He no where mentioned the name of that Judge nor did he mention about the service status of that judge. It is not very difficult to verify that which of the Supreme Court Judges were on pilgrimage during last year. Before following such non-sense, one should verify the correct status of that news through his own sources.
- Shahbaz - 02-15-2009
Mere khuda.. bas hamein bahana chahiye har kisi ko bura kehnay ka. [D]
- kamranACA - 02-16-2009
Dears,
Our columnists and media has always been using its position to get personal benefits and black mail the ones who could be used to get such benefits. Hamid Mir is not an exception. No one other is by the way out of this category, either he is Talat Hussain, Kashif Abbasi, Dr. Shahid Masood, Nazeer Naji, Nasar, Nusrat, or whoever else. We can see so many clues which indicate how these people get personal benefits either in their life or during illness or after death. These are their own sort of mafia.
Having said that, I also agree that their presence is badly needed by our society and whatever they produce or disclose is some times enough to judge the things for the audience.
This is such a critical time for PCO judges and I wonder if lawyers and other media players will left the matter undetected.
Let's wait for the time which may be needed to reveal the things, which hopefully would be surfaced in the situation prevelant in the country.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
- Imran - 02-17-2009
Dear aamir
I also use to watch capital talk by hamid mir. please tell me the details about hamid mir for which you passed such comments.
- Muhammad Amir - 02-19-2009
Dear Imran,
Some times it is not necessary that everything has to be released in public. Do you know Musharraf's ouster and entire coup against him was a CIA orchestrated drama. I know you will not believe in it but this is how CIA operates in Pakistan. Iranian president Mahmud Ahmedi Najad is in very strong position in Iran and general public of Iran is with him but you will soon see his ouster from presidency and Khatmi to take his place. I know you will not believe in this news but just wait and see how the things unfold.
Regards,
Muhammad Amir
- Imran - 02-19-2009
not much idea as i am not involved in politics.
- danishayub_76 - 03-19-2009
Though I am neither involved in politics nor i want to be... But it is quite disturbing that our media people are not performing their due tasks according to required standard, I mean they always focus on things which gone wrong and do not focus on positive aspects.
- kamranACA - 03-19-2009
Dears,
I am not supporting any one since I don't know anyone for his alleged connections but allegations from Amir are quite frequent and similar in nature.
I mean he had been declaring me the agent of Israel's lobby and hidden hands etc for so many times merely due to difference of opinion, which used to carry smiles for the readers.
I thought he might have been matured but perhaps he requires some more time. I look forward to seeing a better Amir in coming days.
And yes, Amir, I don't believe in your Mahmood V/S Khamti story. Let's see what happens. If it goes that way (in shorter run) I will post a note of gratitude for sending such alert! However, if it happens after one year or so, it is of no worth.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
- Muhammad Amir - 03-20-2009
@Danish Ayub Geo(Read Jew) is a planted media center of American CIA. 200 CIA operatives are currently working in Pakistan and they have been tasked to plant some top level Media presenters, influential personalities of society, bureaucrats, politicians and NGO activists. Media is the most reliable and swift source of brainwashing and the big brothers of Masonic lodges love to track people through this Dajjalian technology, I mean TV. Dajjal and his Masonic friends want to destroy Pakistan and for this purpose they are using Geo TV.
@Mr. Kamran Mehmood V/s Khatami story is not mine. It is of some renowned analysts who have full grips on the world politics. These are mere assumptions, at the end of the day they may be right or wrong. I have never declared you an Israeli agent however, some of your words were enough for me to find some vested interests of foreign powers. Anyway, do you still suspect my maturity?
- kamranACA - 03-20-2009
Amir,
I wonder why all of such news reach you first of all. I mean the news which were never proved afterwards. Where assumptions work we must not ask the others to rest assured or wait and see. Have you carried out some physical count of 200 CIA operatives? This depicts certainty instead of asusmptions.
Do you feel Dajjal has appeared? What concept of Dajjal do you carry? It would be interesting to know. Every invention (like TV) cannot be called supportive of Dajjal, we have to put it into right use. Even our hands could do any Dajjali act if we don't use them in righteous way. There could be a great deal of dissenting opinions but I dont agree to your viewpoint.
The vested interests are only known to you. I am not aware of it.
I need not to suspect a lot. Things speak their way. I think there is some improvement on certain fronts. Rest will be corrected as a result of time's therapy. I hope so.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
- Muhammad Amir - 03-21-2009
@Mr. Kamran It has always been a good practice to do some research before typing "Expert" opinions on critical issues. These information reach me because I am interested in such matters, they don't reach others because they may have different interests and commitments.
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Many Pakistanis believe that the civilian leadership, despite public anger, has continued Musharrafâs policy of giving the United States tacit permission to carry out the strikes. The CIA has been working to step up its presence in Pakistan in recent years. It has deployed as many as 200 people to the country, one of its largest overseas operations besides Iraq, current and former agency officials have estimated. That contingent works alongside other US operatives who specialise in electronic communications and spy satellites.</b>
This extract is taken from The News http//thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=20302
And believe me I am not the owner of this newspaper.
As far as Dajjal's issue is concerned then it has been proved beyond doubt that the western civilization is preparing grounds for his raise. I have an excellent and record selling book on this issue if you are interested in this matter then let me inform about it I will tell you its name.
TV, undoubtedly educating masses and creating awareness among them but they only show those things that are approved by the Big brothers of Masonic lodges and their chief "JASSASSA" who is the only informant of Dajjal in this world. I know you will call me a mental case but it will not affect me.
- kamranACA - 03-21-2009
Amir,
I have no principle objection on the claim of 200 operatives. I also don't mind reaching of any news to you, which so far I never saw getting proved or materialized.
However, this is only a claim which is totally based upon asumptions and may not be supported by any official data. We discussed some 3000 abondonded cars on Dubai's airport from all such newspapers, which, remained totally unconfirmed by the persons who are actually living there and who had been personally visiting the airport in those days. You can find it on another thread.
It is also strange that you, at the one hand, declare the Geo TV [jew as per your thinking] (that is also of Jang group) an agent of CIA and at the same time, on other hand, you are also basing your opinion on the figures disclosed by them. I know you are not the owner of "Jang" yet I wonder how can such a Mujahid like you base his conclusions on Jewish information. It is also strange if jewish planted people are providing their own secrets. Is there any line drawn between what information is jewish and what is not jewish?
You said "Dajjal and his friends" that's why I asked if Dajjal has appeared in your perception. I would be obliged to have the name of the book you are refering provided it is not a novel in its nature. I think a collection of all references from Bible and Holy Quran and Ahaadees should be made by some scholar with explanation of every prophecy for the understanding of common muslims and others. If there is any suh collection, do let me know.
I explained that everything has a positive and a negative use be it our hands, eyes, abilities, knowledge, articles, inventions or whatever. The biggest follower of Dajjal is inside all of us that is "NAFS". "Khair" and "Shar" have been created for every sphere and no one exists isolatedly. We cannot push TV or anything purely on negative side. If it's not understandable, we may not discuss it.
I will not call you a mental case since some of your decisions are quite sensible which compelled me to feel you are getting matured.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
- Muhammad Amir - 03-22-2009
@ Mr. Kamran I don't know whether it is plain naivety or something else that you are asking for official data support for such highly secretive matters? Don't you understand the difference between 3000 abandoned cars and 200 CIA operatives? If not then it is really shocking for me.
It is true that I have called Geo as Jew but this is not merely my personal opinion, it is based on some facts that I can share with you, if you are interested in such matters.
JEW TV is the brain child of David Hazinski, Ex-Navy officer of America and a member of American Jewish Committee (AJC).
JEW TV has been involved in creating chaos in Pakistan, it has been involved in destroying the economy of Pakistan perhaps by spreading bad news regarding stock market when actually it was booming, it has been involved in covering Balochistan rebellion movement as "patriot balochs' movement", it has been involved in telecasting suicide attacks and dead bodies, it has been involved in maligning Pakistan Army and ISI, it has been involved in spreading fears in people, like fear to be killed, fear to become jobless, fear of hunger and other insecurities. Incident of 12th May that was planned and executed by the saboteurs of MQM was merely based on the presumptions of JEW TV. JEW TV had already spread that there will be bloodshed on 12th May and started media campaign to prepare grounds for that and further increase fears in common people; then the time came when the world had seen the bloody coup against Pakistan and its sovereignty.
JEW TV is extremely pornographic and propaganda station. Some of their shows are way beyond the pale on being modern. Nudity is not modernity, Science and Technology is modernity. JEW is involved in presenting Indian Films (Note I have no objections on watching films since it is one's personal matter but Pakistani channels should not telecast Indian films because India is our wild rag enemy and it is using its media to destroy Pakistani youth by advertising its third rated prostitutes of bollywood a.k.a. pornowood). 50% of the dramas are Indian dramas on JEW and 25% percent are with mix cast (Indian and Pakistani) and Indian films.
JEW TV continues to use Indian jargon like âpartitionâ. Partition signifies a temporary dissection of the whole. India was never whole. Even during British times there were more than 500 states in the Subcontinent. Some of them banded together to make Pakistan and others banded together to make India.
Farahnaz Isphahani (wife of Hussain Haqqani, fellow of hudson institute and known neo-conservative) of VOA, Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa Agha (writer of notorious book Military Inc.) and Shehryar Khan (a known neo-con) are just few examples that provide concrete evidence of Jewish Neo-Cons involvement in JEW TV.
Please try to understand the difference between JEW TV; and Jang and The News, there are many good contributors is this group like Irfan Siddiqi of Jang, Ansar Abbasi of "The News" and similar other people but JEW TV is clearly pursuing some vested interests of foreign powers.
According to my information Dajjal has not appeared. This bas**** is hiding somewhere in Dead Sea or Devils Sea. Although, he has gained independence from prison but still not allowed to start his activities. One thing is confirmed that he resides in this world and his informant AL-JASSASSA(super spy of Dajjal) informs him about the activities of world. It is also possible that Al-Jassassa has some contacts with Jewsih terrorists, Freemasons, Illuminates of Bavaria etc etc. I think he is waiting for further expension of fascist Jewish state. Only Allah knows better. In on of his book, Maulana Syed Abul Hassan Ali Al Hassani Nadvi has written that Dajjal is not appeared but Dajjali system has appeared and this system will help him in his raise.
May Allah save all of us from his Fitna. A'ameen.
- kamranACA - 03-24-2009
Dear,
I believe Jews will be on the back of Dajjal when he will appear and Christians would never understand that Muslims are logically the best option to join with. They would be misguided by Jews who are by birth the biggest enemies of Christianity. They are doing so even at this moment. Why Muslims would be logically their partners in the war against Dajjal, to my apprehension, has so many reasons.
Bible has cautioned about Dajjal (anti Christ) in so many forms and exemplary meanings. Ahadees have made it far clearer if we want to institute a research. I understand that, basis are being developed for appearance of Dajjal who is supposed to be immensely powerful and authoritative. It's written by God. It has to happen by all means. Treasures would be unearthed on his order, all the powers and resources would concentrate on his hands, only those will find food and shelter that would be on his side and there would remain no place for the ones who would be on positive pole. The lands on his followers will grow everything and the lands of others would be deserted. He would become the owner of everything on the earth and over the earth. If I am not wrong, even clouds will follow his orders. He would claim to be prophet and then to be God and would be so powerful that no one in the universe would be able to stop him or fix him except the Jesus. We can see that the sources and basis are being developed for his arrival. This needs research and dissemination of findings to public at large. We must understand that this is not mythological or historical saga. This has to happen. This is a fact.
You have not mentioned the name of the book which I was waiting for.
As far as Geo is concerned, I don't agree with even one of your presumptions and allegations. You failed to understand that both "Geo" and "Jang" are owned by same group, both have same origination, mindset, sources, agenda and direction.
Besides the Geo, all other media channels are working in same direction. There would be a very thin line if we would try to differentiate them and that would also be merely due to difference of personal approaches.
The point which you are raising is of course a problem with Pakistani media (all channels) that they so many times spread un-confirmed news. One such example is the news about so-called death of Bait-ullah Mahsood. In case of Sherry Rehman's resignation, I was wondering what media would be doing if this news will not qualify the test of confirmation from her. However, this proved to be correct. Media channels, we understand, are always in a quest of taking the lead from others and they proudly claim such leads. To do this, they sometimes base their news on unreliable sources and assumptions. No one is an exception. You can find every channel doing the same. This is a business war.
They may be spreading fear, doubts, uncertainties, rumors etc but this is not only the Geo. PEMRA is there to investigate and control such issues. We have solutions but we don't use them. What we need is to have our own thought and ability to analyze and understand the issues. What not and what not media is called in west, we know. Media is same all over the world. They were a reason of death of Princess Diana, if we can recall.
Understanding and differentiating this issue requires a mind free of fears, doubts, whims, and mythological thoughts. One needs to think at his/her own.
Yes, there is no difference in 3000 cars and 200 CIA officials if these are based upon rumors.
We have two unidentical set of approaches, so it is good if we don't prolong the debate which is solely based upon thougts and unconfirmed clues. I would appreciate you to quote the name of the research material/book on Dajjal.
Regards,
KAMRAN.