03-03-2005, 01:01 AM
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<br />AOA
Ref to Mr lion king's post.
Can you compare the examination system of CA and ACCA. There is hell of difference between them. Have you seen choice in the papers of ICAP? You people get the books of ATFL only, and you can cover all the syllabus and accordingly attempt all the paper. Unlike you, we have to study at least 3-4 books for each subject and after that we have no surety that full paper will be attempted. How can you say that ACCA is better than CA.
Compare the policies of articleship. I have seen many students of ACCA working in thier own colleges as liabrarian to complete their 3 years articleship. Is this not rediculous?
When section 254 of Companies Ordinance says that only CA can be the auditor, then you people get annoyed, this is bcz CAs get polished through a systemetic process, not like ACCA who can complete his 3 years articles no matter as a librarian/receptionist.
If ACCAs were the best than CAs then they would have made their place in Pakistan so far!
ICAP is the best.
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I have read your comments about ACCA in various other Sections also . Before I go further, let me back up a moment.
For the sake of this discussion, I want you to forget all the technical benefits listed . Forget the dreams of interoperability and portability of your content between ACCA and ACA . Forget how much time and money would be saved if you will choose ACCA or CA.
As there comes a point in time when the actions of a few can have a profound impact on the many. In situations like these, the many must find a system of checks and balances in order to protect themselves either from the mistakes of the few, or worse, greed and power mongering of the few. Without a system of checks and balances, the many should hardly ever be surprised when the few either abuse their power, act in a fashion that neglects the needs of the many, or make mistakes that cost the many on the same grand scale that the Foundation affected the Galactic Empire. So i hope whenever you will speak u would be backed up by evidence. So first learn, then speak, otherwise plz be quiet. I think students should stick with what they know the best, and leave the technical issues to more technical prople.
For some of the occasions, we have the luxury of carefully planning and crafting our response, but most of the time we have to formulate our response on the spot. That certainly seems to be the problem accociated with the people who try to find faults in ACCA.
You have jumped into the fray without carefully thinking through the various implications of your statements. You have displayed more emotion than logic, made sweeping charges beyond what could reasonably be supported, failed to adequately document your assertions, and, in general, have failed to do the homework necessary to make your challenges credible.
Unfortunately, at this time, there are no courses on the proper way to criticize paranormal claims. So far as I know, no manuals or books of rules are currently available to guide us/you. Its a matter of judjment. Ali you should adhere to certain principles/standards.
The failure to consistently live up to these standards have exposed you to a number of hazards. You have found ourselves going beyond the facts at hand. You may fail to communicate exactly what we intended. You have confused the members as to what are trying to achieve. You have unwittingly put paranormal proponents in the position of underdogs and created sympathy for them, and, as I already mentioned, you have made my task much more easier.
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If I could... Then I would... Turn back time!!
<br />AOA
Ref to Mr lion king's post.
Can you compare the examination system of CA and ACCA. There is hell of difference between them. Have you seen choice in the papers of ICAP? You people get the books of ATFL only, and you can cover all the syllabus and accordingly attempt all the paper. Unlike you, we have to study at least 3-4 books for each subject and after that we have no surety that full paper will be attempted. How can you say that ACCA is better than CA.
Compare the policies of articleship. I have seen many students of ACCA working in thier own colleges as liabrarian to complete their 3 years articleship. Is this not rediculous?
When section 254 of Companies Ordinance says that only CA can be the auditor, then you people get annoyed, this is bcz CAs get polished through a systemetic process, not like ACCA who can complete his 3 years articles no matter as a librarian/receptionist.
If ACCAs were the best than CAs then they would have made their place in Pakistan so far!
ICAP is the best.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I have read your comments about ACCA in various other Sections also . Before I go further, let me back up a moment.
For the sake of this discussion, I want you to forget all the technical benefits listed . Forget the dreams of interoperability and portability of your content between ACCA and ACA . Forget how much time and money would be saved if you will choose ACCA or CA.
As there comes a point in time when the actions of a few can have a profound impact on the many. In situations like these, the many must find a system of checks and balances in order to protect themselves either from the mistakes of the few, or worse, greed and power mongering of the few. Without a system of checks and balances, the many should hardly ever be surprised when the few either abuse their power, act in a fashion that neglects the needs of the many, or make mistakes that cost the many on the same grand scale that the Foundation affected the Galactic Empire. So i hope whenever you will speak u would be backed up by evidence. So first learn, then speak, otherwise plz be quiet. I think students should stick with what they know the best, and leave the technical issues to more technical prople.
For some of the occasions, we have the luxury of carefully planning and crafting our response, but most of the time we have to formulate our response on the spot. That certainly seems to be the problem accociated with the people who try to find faults in ACCA.
You have jumped into the fray without carefully thinking through the various implications of your statements. You have displayed more emotion than logic, made sweeping charges beyond what could reasonably be supported, failed to adequately document your assertions, and, in general, have failed to do the homework necessary to make your challenges credible.
Unfortunately, at this time, there are no courses on the proper way to criticize paranormal claims. So far as I know, no manuals or books of rules are currently available to guide us/you. Its a matter of judjment. Ali you should adhere to certain principles/standards.
The failure to consistently live up to these standards have exposed you to a number of hazards. You have found ourselves going beyond the facts at hand. You may fail to communicate exactly what we intended. You have confused the members as to what are trying to achieve. You have unwittingly put paranormal proponents in the position of underdogs and created sympathy for them, and, as I already mentioned, you have made my task much more easier.
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If I could... Then I would... Turn back time!!
