07-23-2008, 07:08 AM
Well, my dearest brother can you please quote the hadees reference regarding traveling towards "CHINA" from any book in "Seha-e-Setta". I would appreciate your reply and please accept my thanks in advance.
As far as Javid Iqbal is concerned, I think it is useless to tell you that I alhmadulillah know about him more than you and I know for whose interests he is working in Pakistan. Furthermore, the way he portrays Allama Iqbal(Rehmatullah-e-Allih) in his articles and divide his poetic life in two distinct versions is again for the interests of those forces who like him to do so. He repeatedly denies Allama's spiritual affiliations with Ulema and Tehreek-e-Khilaafat. Furthermore, he said lot of time in print and electronic media that Allama Iqbal never envisioned the creation of Pakistan as a base for a particular brand of religion. He uses his lot of energy in rebutting the ideology of Pakistan by saying that Allama always think about the creation of secular Pakistan.
You always try to play with words in fact some times you get success but it is difficult to play successfully every time. Go and read your post once again. Those who read your posts are not jugglers and most of them can understand the hatred feelings behind words.
For your convenience I am quoting here your own words.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> <b>Still, as a person, he was a common man and <u>he carried the character of a common man</u>. If you doubt, you should learn about his life. <u>I know so many of us believe him a Waliallah which he was not probably.</u></b> <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Now, please don't try to become over smart by giving void justifications.
I/We are not against <b>women education and work</b> as long as it has been obtained under shariah rulings. There should be a proper system for working women(i.e. short duty hours, separate working rooms or at least separate desks, separate messes, Company provided transportation services, a strong control over male colleagues, in case of infringement of women's rights there should be heavy penalties over male colleagues). Now, as far as so called "Women Empowerment Networks" who are working in the guise of NGOs are concerned we should beware of their evil objectives. In my personal opinion current conditions of pakistani people(i.e. Men) does not allow any women to work out side(I hope you can understand what I am saying as you are also a "HAZIR SERVICE" Working Man [I] and you probably have an experience of observing such type of people[Men]).
And please try to restrain yourself from throwing mud on people by anticipating them as your enemies in fact they are not your enemies, they can be your friends if you restrict your differences to the extent of difference of opinion only, not the cold war.
As far as Javid Iqbal is concerned, I think it is useless to tell you that I alhmadulillah know about him more than you and I know for whose interests he is working in Pakistan. Furthermore, the way he portrays Allama Iqbal(Rehmatullah-e-Allih) in his articles and divide his poetic life in two distinct versions is again for the interests of those forces who like him to do so. He repeatedly denies Allama's spiritual affiliations with Ulema and Tehreek-e-Khilaafat. Furthermore, he said lot of time in print and electronic media that Allama Iqbal never envisioned the creation of Pakistan as a base for a particular brand of religion. He uses his lot of energy in rebutting the ideology of Pakistan by saying that Allama always think about the creation of secular Pakistan.
You always try to play with words in fact some times you get success but it is difficult to play successfully every time. Go and read your post once again. Those who read your posts are not jugglers and most of them can understand the hatred feelings behind words.
For your convenience I am quoting here your own words.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> <b>Still, as a person, he was a common man and <u>he carried the character of a common man</u>. If you doubt, you should learn about his life. <u>I know so many of us believe him a Waliallah which he was not probably.</u></b> <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Now, please don't try to become over smart by giving void justifications.
I/We are not against <b>women education and work</b> as long as it has been obtained under shariah rulings. There should be a proper system for working women(i.e. short duty hours, separate working rooms or at least separate desks, separate messes, Company provided transportation services, a strong control over male colleagues, in case of infringement of women's rights there should be heavy penalties over male colleagues). Now, as far as so called "Women Empowerment Networks" who are working in the guise of NGOs are concerned we should beware of their evil objectives. In my personal opinion current conditions of pakistani people(i.e. Men) does not allow any women to work out side(I hope you can understand what I am saying as you are also a "HAZIR SERVICE" Working Man [I] and you probably have an experience of observing such type of people[Men]).
And please try to restrain yourself from throwing mud on people by anticipating them as your enemies in fact they are not your enemies, they can be your friends if you restrict your differences to the extent of difference of opinion only, not the cold war.