03-07-2009, 05:05 PM
Dear Amir,
You did not get hold of the point which could clarify the whole misconception. I clarified that I am talking about the muslims. It's not about Islam. Like ever you are mixing up these two things. I wonder why it's hard to be absorbed.
Christians are not what Jesus (A.S) wanted them to be. Like-wise, Muslims at large (not in a minority) are what that was not liked by our greatest Prophet PBUH. No one is serving any one's cause. Don't handle the issue in this fashion since it is the defeated thought which muslims have every where. I just wanted that a misdirected person should be tackled with soft words and sympathies just like we deal with our sick family members and fellows. The issue of religion is very complex and has direct linkage with faith that is very much personal. This is not two plus two. Our retaliation, dirty language, personal criticism will serve no purpose except distancing such a person further from the message of God. Some body compared it with our long dissenting debates on professional issues. I told, that religious issue is entrely different. There is no two plus two equal to four. I hope it is easily understandable.
So, while going through a critical post in response to the disbeliever's message, I pointed out that we all have pitfalls. We carried such problems historically and we should try to understand the others' problem with soft corner and try to get him out of the phase of disbelief. If we will not do this, we will never be able to preserve the faith of one of our muslim brother. We had been doing so and creating hatered in the hearts of masses. This today is falling back upon our generations. Our actions called for such reactions. Noone of us is milk washed. Neither we nor our previous heros. I am not discussing the golden tenure of Khulfaaey Rashideen (Raziallah Anhuma), I must mention.
One thing I must tell you, just to clear your concept, that the worng deeds of muslims are not shown by a few of muslims. Please understand this fact. Had this been true, would it has resulted into a situation which we are currently facing every where. I hardly find any complete muslim in our social boundries. I am not excluded from the people being discussed. We all are not what the Sunnah guided us to be. We must not forget the style and words Abu Sufyan used just before Fatah Makkah, and the reaction shown by Khalid Bin Walid Raziallah, and the eventual guideline announced by Bilal Raziallah to settle the issue. We in fact have guidance for each step of life.
You wrote
"Had the Muslims been involved in the acts of brutalities then there would have been not a single Non-Muslim alive today. "
I just wish you to revisit this sentence. The brutilities cannot eliminate a religion or a race of mankind. Even the worst genocides of the history could not do it.
You may also analyze the MAJORITY of muslims we have currently. Believe you me we are among the most poorer, backward, undeveloped, uncivilized and uneducated nations of the world. We are most hated over the globe. I understand that all the Kufar is same nation and this has a factual impact on what we see around but it's also a fact that despit having similar views about western nations, we (the muslims) cannot prove it to the satisfaction of our ownselves as well as rest of the world.
As far as Mahmood Ghaznavi was concrened, he was nothing but a king or emperor or conqurer. What he is, as per Allah's criteria is not known to us. He was not a waliallah as per my belief and I am allowed to have my opinion and belief. I discussed his-self to compare the issue of Babri Masjid with Somnat temple and readers can understand what did it mean. Listen, the kings, emperors and conqurers (specially those who use the name of Islam) are representative of whole society. We cannot deny our history. If a few Hindus destruted Babri Masjid then history will write this act as of Hindus and not of a few Hindus. For God sake Mahmood Ghaznavi should not make a reason to hit your religious sentiments. Does it?
The objective of my post was that the man who being a muslim does not understand a message should be made to understand it. Our help can also help us one day.
Further, for the sake of inviting attention to a crucial issue, I wrote that people who are living out of Muslim countries merely for bread and butter will one day lose their generation the way we are witnessing in the post being discussed. Only God's blessing can save some one provided a due care has been taken by the parents during brought up of their kids. Rest is known to ALLAH since he is the writer of the fates.
I hope you are clarified.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
You did not get hold of the point which could clarify the whole misconception. I clarified that I am talking about the muslims. It's not about Islam. Like ever you are mixing up these two things. I wonder why it's hard to be absorbed.
Christians are not what Jesus (A.S) wanted them to be. Like-wise, Muslims at large (not in a minority) are what that was not liked by our greatest Prophet PBUH. No one is serving any one's cause. Don't handle the issue in this fashion since it is the defeated thought which muslims have every where. I just wanted that a misdirected person should be tackled with soft words and sympathies just like we deal with our sick family members and fellows. The issue of religion is very complex and has direct linkage with faith that is very much personal. This is not two plus two. Our retaliation, dirty language, personal criticism will serve no purpose except distancing such a person further from the message of God. Some body compared it with our long dissenting debates on professional issues. I told, that religious issue is entrely different. There is no two plus two equal to four. I hope it is easily understandable.
So, while going through a critical post in response to the disbeliever's message, I pointed out that we all have pitfalls. We carried such problems historically and we should try to understand the others' problem with soft corner and try to get him out of the phase of disbelief. If we will not do this, we will never be able to preserve the faith of one of our muslim brother. We had been doing so and creating hatered in the hearts of masses. This today is falling back upon our generations. Our actions called for such reactions. Noone of us is milk washed. Neither we nor our previous heros. I am not discussing the golden tenure of Khulfaaey Rashideen (Raziallah Anhuma), I must mention.
One thing I must tell you, just to clear your concept, that the worng deeds of muslims are not shown by a few of muslims. Please understand this fact. Had this been true, would it has resulted into a situation which we are currently facing every where. I hardly find any complete muslim in our social boundries. I am not excluded from the people being discussed. We all are not what the Sunnah guided us to be. We must not forget the style and words Abu Sufyan used just before Fatah Makkah, and the reaction shown by Khalid Bin Walid Raziallah, and the eventual guideline announced by Bilal Raziallah to settle the issue. We in fact have guidance for each step of life.
You wrote
"Had the Muslims been involved in the acts of brutalities then there would have been not a single Non-Muslim alive today. "
I just wish you to revisit this sentence. The brutilities cannot eliminate a religion or a race of mankind. Even the worst genocides of the history could not do it.
You may also analyze the MAJORITY of muslims we have currently. Believe you me we are among the most poorer, backward, undeveloped, uncivilized and uneducated nations of the world. We are most hated over the globe. I understand that all the Kufar is same nation and this has a factual impact on what we see around but it's also a fact that despit having similar views about western nations, we (the muslims) cannot prove it to the satisfaction of our ownselves as well as rest of the world.
As far as Mahmood Ghaznavi was concrened, he was nothing but a king or emperor or conqurer. What he is, as per Allah's criteria is not known to us. He was not a waliallah as per my belief and I am allowed to have my opinion and belief. I discussed his-self to compare the issue of Babri Masjid with Somnat temple and readers can understand what did it mean. Listen, the kings, emperors and conqurers (specially those who use the name of Islam) are representative of whole society. We cannot deny our history. If a few Hindus destruted Babri Masjid then history will write this act as of Hindus and not of a few Hindus. For God sake Mahmood Ghaznavi should not make a reason to hit your religious sentiments. Does it?
The objective of my post was that the man who being a muslim does not understand a message should be made to understand it. Our help can also help us one day.
Further, for the sake of inviting attention to a crucial issue, I wrote that people who are living out of Muslim countries merely for bread and butter will one day lose their generation the way we are witnessing in the post being discussed. Only God's blessing can save some one provided a due care has been taken by the parents during brought up of their kids. Rest is known to ALLAH since he is the writer of the fates.
I hope you are clarified.
Regards,
KAMRAN.