08-31-2007, 04:06 PM
Dear,
I just wanted to convey the message of acceptability. In every case there remains a difference between the independent and the dependent. At all stages, a man could be analysed as independent and dependent simultaneously.
Students should be focussed on their goals instead of having worries about what can happen. You know if we just concentrate on what can happen, then we will do nothing in our life. Hope is vital for moving ahead. Beleive you me in no case any firm kicks its innocent student. Firms are selling man hours, they are suppliers of professionals' time and their cost mainly represent the time of students and professionals they devote to an assignment. Accordingly they earn against the sale of time. Time which represents the man hours.
Firms cannot, therefore, do it without men. I know hard working, efficient, easy going and obedient students are liked by every one. No one calls or makes a student to join a firm forcibly. It is with mutual consent. If you feel it totally a valid right of a student to terminate the contract at any time, if he dont feel the environment expedient for him. Then it must also be the right of the principal to do so. Here you must note a point. What would be the ratio of the students taking NOCs and changing firms against the ratio of principals kicking out their students. I think you will have to adjoin so many zeros after the decimal point to define this ratio (on principal's side).
I have also been hearing of Objection Certificate when I was a student. However, I never had seen any such case in last 13 years not any such case has ever been reported in any newspaper, pakistan accountant and ICAP Newsletter. Yes there had been one or two cases of contract termination by principals which were intervened by ICAP and justice was done. Though not apparently seen in CA Ordinance or Bye Laws, still if there has been any option to modify the NOC certificate's format given in BYE LAWS, even then no such case has so far been witnessed by me. If this is a reality then why a normal innocent student should always have worries of such nature. It is not understandable.
As far as Learning is concerned, I am very much clear on it. In this matter, my soul pertains to old school of thought and I always remember the relationship defined by PROPHET P.B.U.H between USTAAD and SHAAGIRD and I also cannot forget the reflections from Hazrat Ali Karamallah Wajho. Further, I feel that learning is the sole responsibility of a student. Teacher / senior / principal (or by whatever name we call it) has the responsibility of teaching and guiding either directly or indirectly or through other sources. Learning cannot adopt any other meaning with the passage of time. Similarly, guidance can also not take any other shape, whatever words we use for it. It has nothing to do with jugglery of words. It is a live reality.
This is a time of learning, accepting and following for you. You cannot take a lead at this moment. This is what a student should do.
Best regards,
Kamran
I just wanted to convey the message of acceptability. In every case there remains a difference between the independent and the dependent. At all stages, a man could be analysed as independent and dependent simultaneously.
Students should be focussed on their goals instead of having worries about what can happen. You know if we just concentrate on what can happen, then we will do nothing in our life. Hope is vital for moving ahead. Beleive you me in no case any firm kicks its innocent student. Firms are selling man hours, they are suppliers of professionals' time and their cost mainly represent the time of students and professionals they devote to an assignment. Accordingly they earn against the sale of time. Time which represents the man hours.
Firms cannot, therefore, do it without men. I know hard working, efficient, easy going and obedient students are liked by every one. No one calls or makes a student to join a firm forcibly. It is with mutual consent. If you feel it totally a valid right of a student to terminate the contract at any time, if he dont feel the environment expedient for him. Then it must also be the right of the principal to do so. Here you must note a point. What would be the ratio of the students taking NOCs and changing firms against the ratio of principals kicking out their students. I think you will have to adjoin so many zeros after the decimal point to define this ratio (on principal's side).
I have also been hearing of Objection Certificate when I was a student. However, I never had seen any such case in last 13 years not any such case has ever been reported in any newspaper, pakistan accountant and ICAP Newsletter. Yes there had been one or two cases of contract termination by principals which were intervened by ICAP and justice was done. Though not apparently seen in CA Ordinance or Bye Laws, still if there has been any option to modify the NOC certificate's format given in BYE LAWS, even then no such case has so far been witnessed by me. If this is a reality then why a normal innocent student should always have worries of such nature. It is not understandable.
As far as Learning is concerned, I am very much clear on it. In this matter, my soul pertains to old school of thought and I always remember the relationship defined by PROPHET P.B.U.H between USTAAD and SHAAGIRD and I also cannot forget the reflections from Hazrat Ali Karamallah Wajho. Further, I feel that learning is the sole responsibility of a student. Teacher / senior / principal (or by whatever name we call it) has the responsibility of teaching and guiding either directly or indirectly or through other sources. Learning cannot adopt any other meaning with the passage of time. Similarly, guidance can also not take any other shape, whatever words we use for it. It has nothing to do with jugglery of words. It is a live reality.
This is a time of learning, accepting and following for you. You cannot take a lead at this moment. This is what a student should do.
Best regards,
Kamran