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Zaid Hamid Escaping
03-05-2010, 04:23 PM
Post: #16
 
yeh humaree fitrat hai, we will raise fingers at people like Zahid Hamid. Fact is, we need people like him. Just tell me one thing and this question is directed to those who are saying ill things about him, is he spreading anything that shouldnt be? does he want us all to unite and stand up and be aware of things we shouldnt? Asal main with time we will progress towards negativity so a person like Zaid Hamid is bound to be criticized by many, specially our own people who are happy with Zardaris and the likes.
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03-05-2010, 04:26 PM
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kamranACA</i>
<br />Zaid Hamid is emotionally disturbed man and lives in a state of over excitement. I (personally) feel him affected by some disorder. I know lots of people are inspired of his exciting but baseless or at least aimless speeches.

As far as our so-called "Ulema" are concerned, GreatKhan's words "fish market" are quite suited to their condition currently.

Regards,


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oh yes we are inspired for sure, i believe most of us have our eyes closed and the truth is just too bitter so we are all in denial and hence the comments as DISORDERS.
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03-05-2010, 04:46 PM
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Phele ye video mulahiza fermalain phir koyee comments pass keriay ga

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPzYmT4cudU&feature=related

Zaid Hamid accepted his links with Yousaf Kazzab and advocating yousaf kazzab jo ke nabuwat ka jhoota dawedar tha Kia aj hamary ghairate emani mar gayee ha k hum ek essay shaksh ki himayat ker rahe hain jo ek Jhoote Nabuwat K Dawedar ka sathi tha balke abhi bhee uski himayat ker raha ha.Mere bhaion aqeede Khatame Nabuwat pe tamam makatibe fikar k ulema mutahid hain Khudara is masle ko apni ana ka masla na banain . Almi Majlise tahafuze khatame Nabuwat main tamamb firqon k ulema shamil hain ya wo Majlis k programon main shirkat kerte hain. Ghaltian Hum sab se ho sakti hain mujh se bhee ho sakti ha hatta k main ne ek unathentic hadees quote ker di mager ap ne dekha k main ne apnee ghaltee tasleem ker li maulvi lakh bure sahi mager yeh maulvion ka masla nhn yeh mere aur ap k eman ka masla ha.


Yad rakhain Aqeeday Khatme Nabuwat deen ki asas ha hazaron shaba (RAJ)jhote nabion k khilaf jhad kerte huy shaheed hue. Hozoor (SAW) k duniya se perda farmane k bad bohat se logon ne nabuwat ka jhoota dawa kia. Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddiq (R.A) ne in KAZIBEEN k khilaf jhad kia.
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03-05-2010, 06:49 PM
Post: #19
 
Dears

Zaid may not be saying wrong things but his state of mind is not correct. Saddam Hussain, when used to talk against USA was not doing incorrect things but uski state of mind nay pooray Iraq kay muslims ke lutya he dabo daali.

So, do listen him and get inspiration but judge every thing with your own mind to refine the things and arrive at what is practical and what is not.

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03-05-2010, 07:16 PM
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See the link

http//www.scribd.com/doc/27862534/Judgement-of-Yousuf-Kazzab-Blasphemy
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03-06-2010, 03:44 AM
Post: #21
 
Syed zaid zaman hamid is the current Imam of Ummah. Every muslim should prepare himself for Ghazwatul Hind and this man will be the one who will lead forces that will conquer India.

Watch this lecture of Hazrat Ameer Muhammad Akram Awan (Khalifah of Hazrat Allah Yar Khan - Naqshbandi Owaisi[R.A]).

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtAwcnaDVZc


GHAZWA-E-HIND THE FINAL SHOWDOWN

http://www.ghazwatulhind.com

http//loungeofamir.blogspot.com/2009/10/ghazwa-e-hind-final-showdown.html

http//loungeofamir.blogspot.com/2009/10/akhand-pakistan.html
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03-06-2010, 04:41 AM
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People can figure out why I mentioned the name of Saddam!

BTW now we are used to read/listen such comec things. I hope it will take too long to rescind Ghazva (Naoozbillah) against our own selves initiated by us. Doosron ke fikar baad main karein gey.

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03-06-2010, 05:46 AM
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kamranACA</i>
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People can figure out why I mentioned the name of Saddam!

BTW now we are used to read/listen such comec things. I hope it will take too long to rescind Ghazva (Naoozbillah) against our own selves initiated by us. Doosron ke fikar baad main karein gey.

Regards,
Kamran.
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Agreed 100%

No one has right to pass judgement on someones faith its between allah and that individual.

with due respect to all members when ever i hear zaid hamid i cannot stop laughing . it is unbelievable that we have these kind of people who are dreaming of conquering other areas where as their own back yard is on fire.

Wake up guys, its a new world now.
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03-06-2010, 01:26 PM
Post: #24
 
Hi Awais,

I read the book and I have so many concerns that if I write , it gonna take a day. Watch this video impartially again over again and listen what he is saying. You would find your answers.


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03-06-2010, 02:34 PM
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Greatkhans</i>
<br />Hi Awais,

I read the book and I have so many concerns that if I write , it gonna take a day. Watch this video impartially again over again and listen what he is saying. You would find your answers.


Regards,

GREAT KHANS
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Hi Great Khan

Umeed ha ap eman ki behtreen halat main honge.
Hazrat kuch din phele apne Seyed Maududi (R.A)Ki kitab ka hawal dia tha kitab ka naam tha "sunnat ki Aini Hesiyat". Is se mujh ko andaza huwa k ap ne Maududi (R.A) ki bohat sari kitabon ka mutala kia ha. Ap farma chuke hain k ap ghalban 1998 main kisi top financial position pe the us zamane main to mera Matric bhee nhn huwa tha. Ap ki theriron se andaza hota ha k ap ek wasee ul mutala shakhs hain.Jab k main ap k muqable main bohat junior hun.

Ap ne yaqinan qadianiat k khilaf threek k bare main bohat kuch parha hoga. Muqadma bhawalpur ka zikar bhe suna ho ga Jis main Hazrat Mualan Anwar shah Kashmiri (RA) idalat main khud pesh huye. Us case k bare main bhe suna hoga jis main Maulana Atta Ullah Shah Bkhari (R.A) Justice Kiyani ki idalat main pesh hue.

Apne zikar kia tha ek dafa k Maulana Maududi (R.A) ko Maslay Qadiyaniat likhe ki waja se maut ki saza huyee thi.

In baaton se qatay nazar ulema aur maulana maududi (R.A) qadiyanion ka kuch nhn bigar sake

Ab atay hain us waqay ki traf jis waqay se qadiyaniat k taboot main aakhri keel thuki. Waqaya yeh huwa k Punjab University k students ek tour pe ja rahe thay. Train Jub RUBWAH station pe ruki to IJT k karkun station pe uter ae aur unhon ne "Rehbar o rehnuma Mustafa Mustaf aur Khatimul Ambia Mustafa Mustafa "k pur josh nare laga ker station ko ser pe utha lia. Beherhal thori dair main wo log chalay gay. Is zamane main Rabwa main qadiani bohat strong the un ki ek deshat gard musallah tanzeem bhee the Al-Furqan k nam se. Is waqay k bad qadiyanion k khalifa ne us waqt k Prime Minister ko phone kia aur sari suratehal batayee aur apne shadid guse ka izhar kia. Prime Minister Sahib ne us qadiani ki dil joyee ki aur kha k "wapsi per un larkon ki Tange TOR DENA". Wapsi per jab train rabwa station per ruki to musallah qadiyani ghundon ne train pe hamla ker k bohat se talba ko buri trah zakhmi ker dia. Is k bad Hazrat Maududi ki jamat k karkun saron pe kafun bandh ker roadon pe nikal aye sath hi Almi Majlis Thafuze Khatme Nabuwat wale bhee un k sath mil gay. Us k bad doosre firqe aru tablighi jamaat bhee anti qadiani movement main shamil hogayee aur hukumat ko waqt per gaya. Aage ki tafseel se ap bakhoobi waqif hain.

Zaid Hamid k case main bhee waqiat kuch isi sequence main ro numa hue. Huwa yeh k zaid Hamid IJT ka karkun reh chuka tha jab wo Karachi ki NED University ka student tha. TV pe us k programs dekh ker Jamiat aur Jammat-e-Islami k log Aalmi Majlise Tahafuze Khatme Nabuwat k ulema k pas phonch gay aur gawahian( Evidences) din k ye wohi shaks ha jo YOUSUF Kazzzab ka mureed tha aur yeh k yeh wo zaid hamid ko achi trah jante hain qn k yeh JI aur IJT se wabista reh chuka ha.

Mere bhayee ap karachi main rehaish pazeer hain whan se do mashoor akhbar nikaltain hain "JISARAT" aur "Umat" . Jisarat Maududi sahab ki jamaat ka akhbar ha is main zaid hamid k khilaf beshumar mazmoon publish hue ap un mazamin ka mutalla farma sakte hain.

ek link main yahan de raha hun jis pe ap Jisarat k ek article ka jo zaid hamid k khilaf tha mutala farma sakte hain

http//www.makepakistanbetter.com/Why_how_what_forumU.asp?GroupID=11&ArticleID=6335

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03-06-2010, 04:11 PM
Post: #26
 
Piyaray Awais Bhai,

Main apkay mutalay ka ahtram karta hoon. Pehlay tashi kardoon kay main nay 1988 ki baat ki thi. Mujh per Allah ka aaj bhi bohat karam hai. Main khud numai pasand nahi karta lihaza apnay baray main bila zaroorat nahi likhta. Aur nahi bila zaroorat logoon say ulajhta hoon.

Yaqenan manay Molana ki tamam kutub ka mutalah kiya hua hai us kay ilawa mainay classic Islamic literature ka bhi mutalah ki hua hay. Us ki bina par main ye kah raha hoon kay aik alim-e-din koa mudabir, mufakir aur tahmul pasand hona chaiyae nakay jazbati. Agar koi shakhs maray samnay yae kahta hay kay wo musalman hay aur Aik Allha, Rasool, Khatam-e-nabowat, (Eman-e-Mufasil) per yaqeen rakhta hay to main us ko challenge nahi karoon ga kiyoon kay Allah sab say bahtar ilm rakhnay wala hay. Yae hi baat Zaid hamid kah raha hay. Har shakhs ko apna difa karnay ka pura haq hasil hona chahiyae. Ab main ap ko aik waqiya sunata hoon.

Rao Farman Ali apni kitab main likhta hay. Jab Z.A Bhutto ko phansi ki saza hui too tamam mamalik kay sarbrahan nai raham ki appeal ki. Indra Gandhi nay Zia ko phone kiya aur darkhast ki kay Bhutto ki saza ko umer qaid main tabdeel kar diya jay. Zia nay jawab main kaha kah hum apni ala adalatoon kay fasaloon ka ahtaram kartay hain, Indra nay kaha kah Mr. Zia main bohat achhi tarhan say waqif hoon kah Indo-Pak main adalatoon kay fasalay kis tarhan say hotay hain. Zia is kaha kah jub ap yae janti hain to kiya ap chahti hain kah wo phansi ka phanda main apnay galay main dal loon?

Molana Maududi ki saza bhi Pakistan ki aik adalat hi nay di thi. Yani fasala apki marzi ka hai to drust hay aur apkay khilaf hay to ghalat hay. Yae mantiq nahi chal sakti.

Ab aiyae, Zia Shahid ki taraf. In ki sural waloon say maray gharwaloon kay 50 sallon say talooqat hain. Wo kitnay sharif hain main bohat achhi tarhan say janta hoon. Is forum per kuchh likh nahi sakta. Ab Aiyae Umat Akhbar ki taraf. Main 1995 main Pakistan ki sab say bari distribution company ka Director Finance tha. aik din maray pas phone aya kay ap Rs.200,000.00 ka chque bhijwadain ap ki company ka ishtahar kal chap raha hay. Yae phone UMAT Akhbar say aya tha. Main nay pucha kay bhai ishtahar ham nay to nahi diya. Agar Apnay cheque nahi bhijwaya to kal say ap ki company kay khilaf khabrain lagni shuroo hou jain gyi. Mainay us say kaha kah jo karna hai kar loo main cheque nahi bhajoonga. Dusray din hamara khilaf khabar lag gai. Main nay UMAT per Sind High Court may Rs. 100 million ka dawa dair kar diya kiyoon kay hamari sari products International Brands thay. Baad main UMAT nay muafi mang li. Ab ap khud andaza kar saktay hain UMAT akhbar ka. Yae suni sunai baat nahi hay ,ara apna tajarba hay.

Bhai maray, agar is tarhan hum har aik ko kafir qarar datay rahay to wohi hoga jo aaj app dekh rahay hain, Shia, Duobandi, baralwi, zikri, Qaidiyani sub aik dusray kha khoon bahatay rahain gay aur tamam masajid wiran ho jaingy. Loog musjid main janay say bhi khoufzada ho jain gay. Muzhabi bardasht aur rawadari say hi hum kisi ko apni baat bahtar toor par samjha saktay hain.

Mujhay umeed hai kay ap samajh gay houngay.


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03-06-2010, 04:25 PM
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Greatkhans</i>
<br />Piyaray Awais Bhai,

Main apkay mutalay ka ahtram karta hoon. Pehlay tashi kardoon kay main nay 1988 ki baat ki thi. Mujh per Allah ka aaj bhi bohat karam hai. Main khud numai pasand nahi karta lihaza apnay baray main bila zaroorat nahi likhta. Aur nahi bila zaroorat logoon say ulajhta hoon.

Yaqenan manay Molana ki tamam kutub ka mutalah kiya hua hai us kay ilawa mainay classic Islamic literature ka bhi mutalah ki hua hay. Us ki bina par main ye kah raha hoon kay aik alim-e-din koa mudabir, mufakir aur tahmul pasand hona chaiyae nakay jazbati. Agar koi shakhs maray samnay yae kahta hay kay wo musalman hay aur Aik Allha, Rasool, Khatam-e-nabowat, (Eman-e-Mufasil) per yaqeen rakhta hay to main us ko challenge nahi karoon ga kiyoon kay Allah sab say bahtar ilm rakhnay wala hay. Yae hi baat Zaid hamid kah raha hay. Har shakhs ko apna difa karnay ka pura haq hasil hona chahiyae. Ab main ap ko aik waqiya sunata hoon.

Rao Farman Ali apni kitab main likhta hay. Jab Z.A Bhutto ko phansi ki saza hui too tamam mamalik kay sarbrahan nai raham ki appeal ki. Indra Gandhi nay Zia ko phone kiya aur darkhast ki kay Bhutto ki saza ko umer qaid main tabdeel kar diya jay. Zia nay jawab main kaha kah hum apni ala adalatoon kay fasaloon ka ahtaram kartay hain, Indra nay kaha kah Mr. Zia main bohat achhi tarhan say waqif hoon kah Indo-Pak main adalatoon kay fasalay kis tarhan say hotay hain. Zia is kaha kah jub ap yae janti hain to kiya ap chahti hain kah wo phansi ka phanda main apnay galay main dal loon?

Molana Maududi ki saza bhi Pakistan ki aik adalat hi nay di thi. Yani fasala apki marzi ka hai to drust hay aur apkay khilaf hay to ghalat hay. Yae mantiq nahi chal sakti.

Ab aiyae, Zia Shahid ki taraf. In ki sural waloon say maray gharwaloon kay 50 sallon say talooqat hain. Wo kitnay sharif hain main bohat achhi tarhan say janta hoon. Is forum per kuchh likh nahi sakta. Ab Aiyae Umat Akhbar ki taraf. Main 1995 main Pakistan ki sab say bari distribution company ka Director Finance tha. aik din maray pas phone aya kay ap Rs.200,000.00 ka chque bhijwadain ap ki company ka ishtahar kal chap raha hay. Yae phone UMAT Akhbar say aya tha. Main nay pucha kay bhai ishtahar ham nay to nahi diya. Agar Apnay cheque nahi bhijwaya to kal say ap ki company kay khilaf khabrain lagni shuroo hou jain gyi. Mainay us say kaha kah jo karna hai kar loo main cheque nahi bhajoonga. Dusray din hamara khilaf khabar lag gai. Main nay UMAT per Sind High Court may Rs. 100 million ka dawa dair kar diya kiyoon kay hamari sari products International Brands thay. Baad main UMAT nay muafi mang li. Ab ap khud andaza kar saktay hain UMAT akhbar ka. Yae suni sunai baat nahi hay ,ara apna tajarba hay.

Bhai maray, agar is tarhan hum har aik ko kafir qarar datay rahay to wohi hoga jo aaj app dekh rahay hain, Shia, Duobandi, baralwi, zikri, Qaidiyani sub aik dusray kha khoon bahatay rahain gay aur tamam masajid wiran ho jaingy. Loog musjid main janay say bhi khoufzada ho jain gay. Muzhabi bardasht aur rawadari say hi hum kisi ko apni baat bahtar toor par samjha saktay hain.

Mujhay umeed hai kay ap samajh gay houngay.


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GREAT KHANS
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Greatkhan

Yeh ap k apne khayalat hain main inka ehtram kerta hun.Mager main in se ikhtilaf ka haq rakhta hun.

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03-06-2010, 04:29 PM
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Muhammad Amir</i>
<br />Syed zaid zaman hamid is the current Imam of Ummah. Every muslim should prepare himself for Ghazwatul Hind and this man will be the one who will lead forces that will conquer India.

<b>Watch this lecture of Hazrat Ameer Muhammad Akram Awan (Khalifah of Hazrat Allah Yar Khan - Naqshbandi Owaisi[R.A]).</b>

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtAwcnaDVZc


GHAZWA-E-HIND THE FINAL SHOWDOWN

http://www.ghazwatulhind.com

http//loungeofamir.blogspot.com/2009/10/ghazwa-e-hind-final-showdown.html

http//loungeofamir.blogspot.com/2009/10/akhand-pakistan.html
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Muhamad Aamir

Mujh ko yeh jan ker dili khushi mehsoos huye k ap Hazrat Maulana Akram Awan sahib se aqeedat
Rakhte hain. Maulana ek bohat bare sufee hain un k murshid Maulana Allah yar (R.A) ki bohat khidmat hain .Maulana Akram Awan Sufi Silsile “Silsalay Awaisia” se wabista hain. Mera chota bhai un se mil chuka ha. Maulana ki masjid manara main ha. Manara Islamabad se thore hi fasle pe ha. Mera bhayee manarah main 2 din qayam ker k bhee a chukka ha aur Hazrat ki zaat se faiz hasil kia.

Mere Bhai Aamir. Ghazway hind berhaq ha. Kaseer ahadeese nabwia is mouzu pe mojood hain. Mere Nabi ki baat jhooti nhn ho sakti hum ko in baton pe hansna nhn chaye. Ghazway hind berhaq ha. Hazrat shaba ghazway Khandaq main khandaq khod rahe the k ek pathar agay jo toot nhn raha tha APP (S.A.W)ne is pathar pe teen zerbain lagain her zerb pe AAP (S.A.W) Kisi baree saltanat k musalmanon k hathon mustaqbil main fatah ki khushkhabri sunate Ap (SAW) ne room aur iran k fatah ki khushkhabri sunayee in ko sun ker to shaba bhee thore se heran ho gay mager un ko yaqin tha k Hozoor (SAW) se barh ker sahi pesheen goyee ker ne wala duniya main na peda huwa ha na ho ga. Kufar to in fatah ki pesheen goyian sun ker ek doosre se hansi mazaq kernel age k yeh musalman hamare dar aur khof se khandaq khod rahe hain khane ko in k pass ha nhn (Huzoor SAW ne aur sahaba ne khndaqain khodte waqt pait pe pathar bandhe hote thay bhook ki aur faqay ki shidat ki wajah se)aur batain ker rahe hain yeh bari bari super powers k fatah kerne ki. Lekin Chashme Falak ne wo manzar dekha k Room,Iran aur Qaisar O Kasra pe musalmanon ki hukumat qaim hoyee. Inshallah wo din door nhn ha jab Delhi k lal qile pe islam ka subz hilali percham dobara lehray ga. Puri duniya bhee ager yeh kahe k yeh deewane ka khawab ha to bhee main is baat ko manne k liay tayar nhn hoon. Puri duniya ghalat ho sakti ha mager mere Aqa,mere Nabi (SAW) ki baat ghalat nhn ho sakti.

<b>Lekin zaid Hamid pe hum kis taraha bharos ker sakte hain. Ap Hazrat Ameer Maulana Akram Awan (DB) ki yeh video dekhain jis main unhon ne kaha k zaid hamid Yousaf Kazzab ka sathi tha.</b>

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw3Xj4TrzKM

Please see the video


Abu Daud ne Huzoor (S.A.W) ki ek hadees bayan ki ha jis ka mafhoom peshe khidmat ha

“Aap (SAW) ne farmay qayamat k qareeb Tareek Raat k Tukron ki trah Fitne Namoodar Honge In Fitnon main Ek Shaks Subah ko Momin Ho Ga Sham Ko Kafir Ho ga. Sham Ko to Momin Ho ga Mager Subah Ko Kafir Ho ga. (Yeh Hadees ka Mafhoom Ha Allah Kami Beshi Maaf Farmay)

Ek Aur jaga in fitnon k bare main yeh bhee farmaya k ye fitne logon ko apni taraf khench lenge jo inki taraf dekhe ga.
Ek jaga upper quote ki gayee Hadees main yeh izafa bhee ha

“Admi bhot thore mall k peechay apne eman ko bech dega.” (again mafhoom)

Allah ham sab k eman ki hifazat farmay

Ameen

Jazakallah

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03-06-2010, 05:03 PM
Post: #29
 
@Great Khan

Ap ko Qadiayanion ka Zikar musalmanon k firqon k sath nhn kerna chaye tha. Is se koyee ghalat matlab le sakta ha wese bhee qadiani musalman nhn hain. Deobandi, Brelvi, Ahle Tashih, Ahle Hadis sub pakkay thakkay musalman hain.Jo log ek doosre ko kafir qarar dain unki gardanain utar lena chayain.

@All

Islam k daire ko itna bhee wasi na karain k is main Qadiyani,Pervaizi aur Lahori group bhee sama jay. Main Zaid Hamid k reference main nhn keh raha. Zaid Hamid K khilaf koyee fatwa nhn aya ha us se sirf explaination mangi ja rahi ha.

Mera is topic pe long discussion ka koyee irada nhn tha. Mager yeh topic bharta ja rha ha ap tamam logon se guzarish ha k ap log apne tor pe tehqiq karain Zaid Hamid k bare main. Haqiqat ka khud hi pata chal jay ga.Ager kisi ko mujh se koyee sawal kerna ha to wo mujh ko email ker sakta ha. Ager yeh topic mazeed challa to bohat se masle aur ikhtilafat uthainge.
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03-06-2010, 08:57 PM
Post: #30
 
Its very common in our country to pronounce the verdict of kufer if some one disagrees to your point. My humble request to all be rational and try to see other side of story...
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M.Rizwan

Countering Pakistani terrorists’ anti-India propaganda

By Maulana Waris Mazhari

(Translated from Urdu by Yoginder Sikand)

For almost two decades now, self-styled jihadist outfits based in
Pakistan have been engaged in a war against India in Kashmir. This war
of theirs has no sanction in Islam, which does not allow for proxy
war, and that too one declared by non-state actors. It is an explicit
violation of all Islamic principles. These outfits, which have
considerable support inside Pakistan, see the conflict between India
and Pakistan over Kashmir as a religious struggle, and they wrongly
describe it as a jihad. They regard their role in Kashmir as but the
first step in a grand, though completely fanciful, plan to annex India
into Pakistan and convert it into what they style as dar- ul-islam,
the Abode of Islam. But what they finally dream of establishing, or so
they boast, is Muslim hegemony throughout the entire world.

I have used the term ‘hegemony’ here deliberately, for radical Muslim
groups in Pakistan and in the Arab world have been indelibly
influenced and shaped by the hegemonic designs of European colonialism
in the past and Western imperialism today, and, in some senses, are a
reaction to this hegemonic project. They seek to counter Western
political supremacy and replace it by what they conceive of as Islamic
political supremacy. In my view, this approach is in sharp
contradistinction to Islamic teachings. The term ghalba-e islam, the
establishment of the supremacy of Islam, used in the context of the
Quran and the sayings of the Prophet (Hadith), refers not to any
political project of Muslim domination, but, rather, to the
establishment of the superiority of Islam’s ideological and spiritual
message. This, in fact, was the basic crux of the mission of the
Prophet Muhammad. However, the term has been distorted at the hands of
the self-styled jihadists, who present it as a project to establish
Muslim or Islamic political domination over the entire world.

War against India

Today, as the case of the Pakistani self-styled jihadists so
tragically illustrates, many of those who claim to be struggling in
the cause of Islam themselves work against Islamic teachings by
deliberately or otherwise misinterpreting them. This is the case with
their misuse of the term jihad in the context of Kashmir in order to
win mass support for themselves. Needless to add, this is a major
cause for growing anti-Islamic sentiments among many non-Muslims.

The dispute between India and Pakistan over Kashmir has been lingering
for more than half a century. A major hurdle in the resolution of this
conflict is the self-styled jihadists based in Pakistan, who insist
that the conflict over Kashmir is an Islamic jihad and that,
therefore, war is the only solution. They claim that participation in
this so-called jihad has become a farz-e ayn, a duty binding on all
Muslims, and some of them, most prominently the dreaded Lashkar-e
Tayyeba, even go so far as to claim that the war in Kashmir is nothing
but the ghazwat ul-hind, the ‘war against India’ which is mentioned in
a saying attributed to the Prophet Muhammad. By this they want to
suggest that waging war against India is an Islamic duty, something
prophesied by the Prophet Muhammad himself.

What is the actual meaning and implication of the statement attributed
to the Prophet regarding the ghazwat ul-hind, which the Pakistan-based
self-styled jihadists regularly refer to, and grossly misinterpret, in
order to whip up anti-Indian sentiments and seek what they wrongly
claim is Islamic sanction for their deadly terror attacks against
India, in Kashmir and beyond? Before I discuss that, I must point out
that the statement attributed to the Prophet regarding the ghazwat
ul-hind is found in only one of the sihah sitta, the six collections
of Hadith reports of the Sunni Muslims—in the collection by al-Nasai.
This statement was narrated by Abu Hurairah, a companion of the
Prophet. According to him, the Prophet prophesied a battle against
India. If he (Abu Hurairah) got the chance to participate in this
battle, Abu Hurairah said, he would do so, sacrificing his wealth and
life. If he died in this battle, he said, he would be counted among
the exalted martyrs. According to another narration, related by the
Prophet’s freed slave Thoban, the Prophet once declared that there
were two groups among the Muslims whom God had saved from the fires of
Hell. The first would be a group that invaded India. The other group
would be those Muslims who accompanied Jesus (after he returned to the
world). A similar narration is contained in the collections of Hadith
by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Baihaqi and Tabrani.

Explanation

Because this hadith about the ghazwat ul-hind mentions India, and is
marshaled by self-styled Pakistan-based jihadists active in Kashmir,
it marks the Kashmir conflict out as clearly distinct from other
conflicts elsewhere in the world between Muslims and others. These
self-styled jihadists regularly invoke this hadith, trapping people in
their net by claiming that if they were to die fighting the Indians in
Kashmir they would be saved from hell and would earn a place in
heaven. This claim, false though it is, is regularly and constantly
repeated, as is evident from a host of Pakistani websites and
periodicals.

Let me quote a revealing instance in this regard. Recently, I came
across the August 2003 issue of ‘Muhaddith’, an Urdu magazine
published from Lahore, Pakistan. It contains a 20-page article on the
ghazwat ul-hind, written by a certain Dr. Asmatullah, Assistant
Professor at the Islamic Research Academy of the International Islamic
University, Islamabad. The article represents a pathetic effort to
project the ongoing conflict in Kashmir as precisely the same ghazwat
ul-hind that the Prophet is said to have predicted. And it is on the
basis of this reported hadith of the Prophet that ultra-radical
Islamists in Pakistan talk about unleashing a so-called jihad,
extending out of Kashmir and to consume the whole of India. This is no
longer limited to just fiery rhetoric alone, but, in fact, is also now
accompanied by deadly terror attacks in different parts of India,
which Pakistan-based radicals wrongly style as a jihad or even as the
ghawzat ul-hind reportedly prophesied by the Prophet. It is striking
to note in this connection that in the above-mentioned article, the
editors of ‘Muhadith’ disagree with the views of the author,
expressing their differences in the form of a footnote. Yet, this
counter-view, as expressed by the editors of the magazine, is hardly
ever discussed or even referred to in Pakistani so-called jihadist
literature, indicating, therefore, that the rhetoric of the
self-styled jihadists is based less on proper scholarly analysis of
the Islamic textual tradition than on strident, heated emotionalism
and a deep-rooted hatred and feeling of revenge. This applies not just
in the Pakistani case. Rather, is a phenomenon common to almost all
so-called jihadist movements throughout the rest of the world.

The Pakistani self-styled jihadists, it would appear, have made the
hadith about the ghazwat ul-hind into a plaything in their hands in
order to entrap innocent people. It is quite possible that the
Pakistani youth who were involved in the recent deadly terrorist
attack on Mumbai were fed on this sort of poisonous propaganda and led
into believing that they might go straight to heaven if they waged war
against India. In India, the banned Students Islamic Movement of India
appeared to have backed the same wholly erroneous and unwarranted
interpretation of the hadith about the ghazwat ul-hind, following in
the footsteps of Pakistani radical groups. Mercifully, as far as I
know, no other Indian Muslim group or scholar worthy of mention has
adopted the ‘Pakistani interpretation’ of this particular hadith
report.

Tragically, the concept of jihad has been subjected to considerable
abuse and made to serve extremist ends by self-styled jihadists. This
started in the very first century of Islam itself, when intra-Muslim
wars were sought to be christened by competing groups as jihads. And
because of the distorted understanding of jihad championed by many
Muslims themselves, they labeled any and every controversy and
conflict with non-Muslims, even if it had nothing at all to do with
religion but everything to do with politics, as a jihad, as the case
of Kashmir well exemplifies. Another facet of the distorted
understanding of jihad by some Muslims are suicide-bombings, in which
innocent civilians are killed. Yet another is proxy war by non-state
actors, such as armed self-styled jihadist groups, which actually has
no legitimacy in Islam at all.

Scrutiny

<b>Coming back to the question of the hadith about the ghazwat ul-hind,
some aspects of the report deserve particular scrutiny. Firstly, as
mentioned earlier, this report is mentioned only in the collection of
al-Nasai from among the six collections of Hadith which most Sunnis
regard, to varying degrees, as canonical. However, considering the
merits or rewards of the ghazwat ul-hind that it talks about, it
ought, one might think, to have been narrated by many more companions
of the Prophet. But that, as it curiously happens, is not the case.

Secondly, and this follows from above, it is possible that this hadith
report is not genuine and that it might have been manufactured in the
period of the Ummayad Caliphs to suit and justify their own political
purposes and expansionist deigns. On the other hand, if this hadith
report is indeed genuine—which it might well be—in my view, the battle
against India that it predicted was fulfilled in the early Islamic
period itself, and is not something that will happen in the future.
This, in fact, is the opinion of the majority of the ulema, qualified
Islamic scholars. And this view accords with reason as well. It is
quite likely that the ghazwat ul-hind that this report predicted took
the form of the attack by an Arab Muslim force on Thana and Bharuch,
in coastal western India, in the 15th year of the Islamic calendar in
the reign of the Caliph Umar. Equally possibly, it could have been
fulfilled in the form of the missionary efforts of some of the
Prophet’s companions soon after, in the reign of the Caliphs Uthman
and Ali, in Sindh and Gujarat. Some other ulema consider this hadith
to have been fulfilled in the form of the attack and occupation of
Sindh by Arab Muslims led by Muhammad bin Qasim in the 93rd year of
the Islamic calendar, which then facilitated the spread of Islam in
the country. This might well be the case, for the hadith report about
the ghazwat ul-hind contained in the Masnad of Ahmad ibn Hanbal, a
well-known collection of Hadith narratives attributed to the Prophet,
mentions that the Muslim army that would attack India would be sent in
the direction of Sindh and Hind.

Thirdly, this hadith mentions only a single or particular battle
(ghazwa), and not a series of continuing battles, unlike what the
author of the article in the ‘Muhaddith’, referred to above, echoing
the arguments of Pakistani self-styled jihadists, claims.

Fourthly, one must raise the very pertinent question of how it is at
possible that, in the face of the numerous attacks on India by Arab
and other Muslims over the last one thousand years, the more than six
hundred rule of Muslim dynasties that controlled most of India and the
rapid spread of Islam in the country in the period when they ruled,
any scope could be left to consider India a target of jihad in the
future. Furthermore, today India and Pakistan have diplomatic
relations and are bound by treaty relations. Hence, the proxy war
engaged in by Kashmir by powerful forces in Pakistan in the guise of a
so-called jihad is nothing but deceit, which is a complete
contravention of, indeed a revolt against, accepted Islamic teachings.

Fifthly, it must be remembered that it would have been very easy for
Muslim conquerors of India in the past, men like Mahmud of Ghazni,
Shihabuddin Ghori, Timur, Nadir Shah and so on, to present the hadith
about the ghazwat ul-hind and wield it as a weapon to justify their
attacks on the country. The corrupt ulema associated with their courts
could well have suggested this to them had they wished. However, no
such mention is made about this in history books. In the eighteenth
century, the well-known Islamic scholar Shah Waliullah of Delhi
invited the Afghan warlord Ahmad Shah Abdali to invade India and
dispel the Marathas, which he accepted, but yet Shah Waliullah, too,
did not use this hadith as a pretext for this.</b>

Indian ulema

It is also pertinent to examine how some well-known contemporary
Indian ulema look at this hadith report. Maulana Abdul Hamid Numani, a
leading figure of the Jamiat ul-Ulema-i Hind, opines that this hadith
was fulfilled at the time of the ‘Four Righteous Caliphs’ of the
Sunnis, soon after the demise of the Prophet Muhammad, when several
companions of the Prophet came to India, mainly in order to spread
Islam. Mufti Sajid Qasmi, who teaches at the Dar ul-Uloom in Deoband,
is also of the same opinion, although he believes that it might also
refer to the invasion of Sindh by the Arabs under Muhammad bin Qasim
in the eighth century. On the other hand, Maulana Mufti Mushtaq
Tijarvi of the Jamaat-i Islami Hind believes that it is possible that
this hadith report is not genuine at all and that it might have been
fabricated at the time of Muhammad bin Qasim’s invasion of Sindh in
order to justify it.

Whatever the case might be, the misuse by radical groups of this
hadith report to spearhead war in Kashmir in the name of so-called
jihad and to foment conflict between India and Pakistan is tragic, to
say the least. It is nothing sort of a crime against God and the
Prophet. In their worldviews and in their actions as well, the
self-styled jihadist outfits seem to have gone the way of the
Khawarij, a group that emerged in the early period of Islam and who
were rejected by other Muslims. The Khawarij believed that they alone
were Muslims and that all others, including those who called
themselves Muslims, were infidels and fit to be killed. With reference
to the Khawarij, the Prophet predicted that they would depart from
Islam in the same way as an arrow flies out of a bow. About the
Khawarij the Caliph Ali mentioned that they take the word of truth and
turn it into falsehood (kalimatu haqqin urida beha al-batil). This he
said in the context of the Khawarij misinterpreting the Quran and
claiming that Ali and his followers were infidels who deserved to be
killed.

It is imperative, and extremely urgent, for Muslim scholars,
particularly the ulema, to take strict notice of, and stridently
oppose the radical self-styled jihadists, who are distorting and
misunderstandings Islamic teachings, following in the footsteps of the
Khawarij of the past, and spreading death and destruction in the name
of Islam. Jihad, properly understood, is a struggle to put an end to
strife and conflict, not to create or foment it, as is being done
today. The general public, particularly Muslims themselves, should be
made aware of the dangerous deviation of the self-styled jihadists and
the horrendous implications of their acts and views. In this regard, a
major responsibility rests with the ulema of India and Pakistan. These
days, ulema groups in India are very actively involved in organizing
conferences and holding rallies seeking to defend themselves and Islam
from the charges terrorism leveled against them. This is a very
welcome thing. However, they must also stridently speak out against
and clearly and unambiguously expose and denounce the self-styled
soldiers of Islam who are promoting terrorism in the name of Islam. At
the same time, it is also urgent to promote re-thinking of some
medieval notions of jihad, such as that of offensive jihad, which does
not actually have any Islamic legitimacy. This is essential for
Muslims to live in today’s times and to come to terms with democracy
and pluralism. Simply verbally defending Muslims and Islam from the
charges of terrorism is, clearly, not enough. Nor is it adequate to
simply condemn terrorism in very general terms. The truth is, and this
cannot be disputed, that today there is also a pressing need to
unleash a ‘jihad’ against the self-styled jihadist outfits themselves.
And in this jihad, undoubtedly, the ulema and Muslim intellectuals
have a central role to play and a major responsibility to shoulder.

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Maulana Waris Mazhari, a graduate of the Dar ul-Uloom at Deoband, is
the editor of the Delhi-based ‘Tarjuman Dar ul-Uloom’, the official
organ of the Deoband Graduates’ Association. He can be contacted on
w.mazhari@gmail.com
(Source http//www.twocircles.net/2009jan24/countering_pakistani_terrorists_anti_india_propaganda.html )
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