11-24-2007, 04:47 PM
Dear Shoaib,
I would certainly say that you have this time mixed the things well and given them meaning of your own choice. You said WWE is not a sport and cricket is a sport. Gud for you to conclude it. I wonder I have never seen WWE matches at Star Plus or some other drama channel. These are always run at sports channel. Certainly these sports channels should get consultancy services from you regarding what should be categorized as sports and what should not be.
I again reiterate that cricket is as much drama as the WWE is. I will reiterate that as in WWE the big players have to win the big titles, exactly in cricket big teams win or run up the big titles. Yes, upsets can also be seen in both veneues. This just requires understanding and acceptibility. Dramas in sports are typically arranged in such a way that so many of "WISE" people treat it as a genuine spirit. As far as Australia is concerned it is the biggest play of the game and its winning is not out of question even in dramas as I explained earlier. However, you can see upsets as well like what Aust did against Zimbabwe. Can you explain what happened in 1999 WC final when Pakistan collapsed against Australia. Was in ur wise conclusion it not a fixed or pre-agreed game? If not, then is there any purpose of our discussion???
Where I have quoted the examples of Shakoor Rana and others along with security reasons, it was to say that various things giving us bad name have been accumulated over the time. I did not say that only a single reason is the root cause of everything. As far as security issue is concerned is Sri Lanka safe for the foreigners? Is india a safe place? Is UK a safe place? These all places had been on hit list of terrorists as could be evidenced from the news papers after 9/11. Pakistan is portrayed to be more unsafer than other places due to lesser effective advocacy and diplomatic efforts by the responsible ones. I must agree that the treatment of other nations with Pakistan has so many times been seen one sided. I again say that this prophecy lacks the evidence and may also not appear logical to you but there is some certain issue of PCB with other boards and in so many cases PCB has behaved like this where Pakistan lost its stance and benefits. Just study the financial loss sustained by Pakistan when a match at UK was refused to be played by us. Yes our board had been on its knees on so many occusions. We had been dishonest more than other world. For this you can also check our number as a nation in the report of Transperecy International. We have much more accpetibility of pre-planning than other world. Other countries might be doing it at players level, if we accept all your points, but Pakistan undoubtedly is doing it at board's level that is too much dangerous than the dishonesty at player's level. Can anybody tell us the justification of Naseem Ashraf's appointment as Chairman board? His previous exposure to cricket and his connectivity and understanding with/of this game at this professional level. The persons like (at higher side) Shaukat Aziz, Moeen Qureshi, Mian Muhammad Somro and
(at a bit lower side) Naseem Ashraf etc are imported for very specific purposes. Do you feel some one really has the pain for the country? You cannot conclude these comparisons as distracted and irrelevant. These show the mindset and trend of the country's thought as a whole.
Rahi baat bharay huey pait waaley ka maut sey khailnaa. Tu bhaai what the people in governance of Pakistan are doing? There is a basic concept that people who come up in power fell so much in lust of money and position that they never want to go out alive. Have you not seen the situation of Zia-ul-Haq and are you not seeing situation of Pervez Musharraf (rightly said to be Pervez Mussalat by some fellow at this forum)? Why the death of father and two real brothers of Benzair has not abstained her from doing this politics. Do you really feel she has a pain for Pakistan and nation. So is it not a quest of money even with full tummies? What will you call it? This is just one exmaple. You know I can provide you so many other such examples where even full stomached people endanger their lives for money. Do you really not know them???
I think this word LOGIC carries some psychological effects for you. If so, I will not use this word again. Further if you only wish to hear from me that I am totally impressed from ur viewpoint and have no word to contradict with such a mature reality based and nicely framed viewpoint and statements, then tell me, I will at some place declare it for your happiness and satisfaction of mind. ) Otherwise you know I ont really agree what you say at this thread. Just tell me if you only wish to hear how much impressed I am. I will declare it. Unconditional.
Stay happier.
Regards,
Kamran.
I would certainly say that you have this time mixed the things well and given them meaning of your own choice. You said WWE is not a sport and cricket is a sport. Gud for you to conclude it. I wonder I have never seen WWE matches at Star Plus or some other drama channel. These are always run at sports channel. Certainly these sports channels should get consultancy services from you regarding what should be categorized as sports and what should not be.
I again reiterate that cricket is as much drama as the WWE is. I will reiterate that as in WWE the big players have to win the big titles, exactly in cricket big teams win or run up the big titles. Yes, upsets can also be seen in both veneues. This just requires understanding and acceptibility. Dramas in sports are typically arranged in such a way that so many of "WISE" people treat it as a genuine spirit. As far as Australia is concerned it is the biggest play of the game and its winning is not out of question even in dramas as I explained earlier. However, you can see upsets as well like what Aust did against Zimbabwe. Can you explain what happened in 1999 WC final when Pakistan collapsed against Australia. Was in ur wise conclusion it not a fixed or pre-agreed game? If not, then is there any purpose of our discussion???
Where I have quoted the examples of Shakoor Rana and others along with security reasons, it was to say that various things giving us bad name have been accumulated over the time. I did not say that only a single reason is the root cause of everything. As far as security issue is concerned is Sri Lanka safe for the foreigners? Is india a safe place? Is UK a safe place? These all places had been on hit list of terrorists as could be evidenced from the news papers after 9/11. Pakistan is portrayed to be more unsafer than other places due to lesser effective advocacy and diplomatic efforts by the responsible ones. I must agree that the treatment of other nations with Pakistan has so many times been seen one sided. I again say that this prophecy lacks the evidence and may also not appear logical to you but there is some certain issue of PCB with other boards and in so many cases PCB has behaved like this where Pakistan lost its stance and benefits. Just study the financial loss sustained by Pakistan when a match at UK was refused to be played by us. Yes our board had been on its knees on so many occusions. We had been dishonest more than other world. For this you can also check our number as a nation in the report of Transperecy International. We have much more accpetibility of pre-planning than other world. Other countries might be doing it at players level, if we accept all your points, but Pakistan undoubtedly is doing it at board's level that is too much dangerous than the dishonesty at player's level. Can anybody tell us the justification of Naseem Ashraf's appointment as Chairman board? His previous exposure to cricket and his connectivity and understanding with/of this game at this professional level. The persons like (at higher side) Shaukat Aziz, Moeen Qureshi, Mian Muhammad Somro and
(at a bit lower side) Naseem Ashraf etc are imported for very specific purposes. Do you feel some one really has the pain for the country? You cannot conclude these comparisons as distracted and irrelevant. These show the mindset and trend of the country's thought as a whole.
Rahi baat bharay huey pait waaley ka maut sey khailnaa. Tu bhaai what the people in governance of Pakistan are doing? There is a basic concept that people who come up in power fell so much in lust of money and position that they never want to go out alive. Have you not seen the situation of Zia-ul-Haq and are you not seeing situation of Pervez Musharraf (rightly said to be Pervez Mussalat by some fellow at this forum)? Why the death of father and two real brothers of Benzair has not abstained her from doing this politics. Do you really feel she has a pain for Pakistan and nation. So is it not a quest of money even with full tummies? What will you call it? This is just one exmaple. You know I can provide you so many other such examples where even full stomached people endanger their lives for money. Do you really not know them???
I think this word LOGIC carries some psychological effects for you. If so, I will not use this word again. Further if you only wish to hear from me that I am totally impressed from ur viewpoint and have no word to contradict with such a mature reality based and nicely framed viewpoint and statements, then tell me, I will at some place declare it for your happiness and satisfaction of mind. ) Otherwise you know I ont really agree what you say at this thread. Just tell me if you only wish to hear how much impressed I am. I will declare it. Unconditional.
Stay happier.
Regards,
Kamran.