07-17-2008, 06:44 PM
Dears,
It had been a nice chat. I just read it.
As far as army generals are concerned, these are the most corrupt people and their history speaks about them. Some one should go to Islamabad and ask common citizens (most of them would be knowing) about how the daughter of Gen. Hameed Gul used the power of his father to extend and establish her transport business. Hameed Gul could not correct his own childern then what should the others expect from him.
One institute has been discussed by Amir with great hopes. It has very confidential duties, and I personally feel it's handling/doing more regional or political or strategic things than the Islamic ones. Notwithstanding its strategic role (which it may be playing effectively), I don't have any doubt that it is one of the most effectively corrupt institution of Pakistan simply like army. I need not to go into details.
Gen. Javed Nasir. Mashallah. What should I say about him. He has his own thoughts, although he speaks well. Once in a tv programme he said he supports this idea and wants India to allow Pakistani Tableeghis to visit India for Tableeghi purposes. TV anchorperson asked him what if same request be placed by India to Pakistan for the visit of Hindu or Sikh preachers. Out upon the logic of Gen Nasir. He replied, this issue does not arise as hindu or sikh relgions don't have preachers. What one can comment on this illiterate response of Gen. Nasir. By the way there are so many allegations on Gen. Nasir as well. These were briefly discussed in that TV programme.
We can discuss each and every Amir quoted generals. This is not to find out pitfalls in others. I may personally have so many shortcomings. Rather this is just to tell that such Gen.s are not the hope of our nation. They had been the most corrupt and most of them still have same mindset. Pakistani people feel every one the expected/awaited Salah-ud-Din Ayubi. This is our main de-merit.
I don't say that Jehad Bis-saif (Naoozbillah) should not be done. But I firmly believe that this Jehad is Jehad-e-Asghar. We normally never think on doing Jehad-e-Akber. My question is, do we feel only Jehad Bis-Saif is a Jehad? I could not find any one concentrating and advising on that other Jehad as well which is in fact the most needed at this moment. Our moral values have been destroyed to such extent that I cannot even give its short picture by writing down posts on this forum.
The people who want the things destructed (without any reason) are the enemies of humanity, religion, nobality and peace. Talibans, and now the by-products of Talibans like Lashkar-e-Islam and Ansar-ul-Islam are doing a great job in bringing bad name to Islam. Every one is a great muslim and doing the truthful Jehad. What can we do? I can give my smile if I wish to keep the things calm. )
Is there any doubt that they are not the criminals? Certainly there would be greatest doubts to certain class of people. I don't mind.
By the way what a mindfull thinking is to ask ISI to take the control of the government. Should I comment????????????????????
Shahbaz, do u need some other comments???? I mean on any other area?
Regards,
KAMRAN.
It had been a nice chat. I just read it.
As far as army generals are concerned, these are the most corrupt people and their history speaks about them. Some one should go to Islamabad and ask common citizens (most of them would be knowing) about how the daughter of Gen. Hameed Gul used the power of his father to extend and establish her transport business. Hameed Gul could not correct his own childern then what should the others expect from him.
One institute has been discussed by Amir with great hopes. It has very confidential duties, and I personally feel it's handling/doing more regional or political or strategic things than the Islamic ones. Notwithstanding its strategic role (which it may be playing effectively), I don't have any doubt that it is one of the most effectively corrupt institution of Pakistan simply like army. I need not to go into details.
Gen. Javed Nasir. Mashallah. What should I say about him. He has his own thoughts, although he speaks well. Once in a tv programme he said he supports this idea and wants India to allow Pakistani Tableeghis to visit India for Tableeghi purposes. TV anchorperson asked him what if same request be placed by India to Pakistan for the visit of Hindu or Sikh preachers. Out upon the logic of Gen Nasir. He replied, this issue does not arise as hindu or sikh relgions don't have preachers. What one can comment on this illiterate response of Gen. Nasir. By the way there are so many allegations on Gen. Nasir as well. These were briefly discussed in that TV programme.
We can discuss each and every Amir quoted generals. This is not to find out pitfalls in others. I may personally have so many shortcomings. Rather this is just to tell that such Gen.s are not the hope of our nation. They had been the most corrupt and most of them still have same mindset. Pakistani people feel every one the expected/awaited Salah-ud-Din Ayubi. This is our main de-merit.
I don't say that Jehad Bis-saif (Naoozbillah) should not be done. But I firmly believe that this Jehad is Jehad-e-Asghar. We normally never think on doing Jehad-e-Akber. My question is, do we feel only Jehad Bis-Saif is a Jehad? I could not find any one concentrating and advising on that other Jehad as well which is in fact the most needed at this moment. Our moral values have been destroyed to such extent that I cannot even give its short picture by writing down posts on this forum.
The people who want the things destructed (without any reason) are the enemies of humanity, religion, nobality and peace. Talibans, and now the by-products of Talibans like Lashkar-e-Islam and Ansar-ul-Islam are doing a great job in bringing bad name to Islam. Every one is a great muslim and doing the truthful Jehad. What can we do? I can give my smile if I wish to keep the things calm. )
Is there any doubt that they are not the criminals? Certainly there would be greatest doubts to certain class of people. I don't mind.
By the way what a mindfull thinking is to ask ISI to take the control of the government. Should I comment????????????????????
Shahbaz, do u need some other comments???? I mean on any other area?
Regards,
KAMRAN.