09-26-2003, 09:58 AM
Hello friends!
Thnks friends for your encouraging words. I would like to reply to some of the points raised by you friends.
First for Zubair, i think the material on the subject is very clear. It is not only forbidden to charge but to pay interest also. A famous Hadith says
"The Apostle of Allah (PBUH) cursed the one who accepted usury, the one who paid it, the witness to it, and the one who recorded it"
The matter is so important that Holly Prophet(PBUH) devoted considerable amount of time in his last Khutba on the issue of usury.
I quote the relevant part of the address below
"ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore, all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer an inequity. Allah has judged that there shall be no interest and that interest due to Abbas Ibn Abd'al Muttalib (Prophet's uncle) shall henceforth be waived.."
I was almost shocked to realize how important this practice is when i found another Hadith that says
"sin of interest dealing is thirty times more compared to the sin of
adultery"
Now for Guybrush
I have address of a very interesting website www.missionislam.com.
You have to search for section that deal with usury. There, you will find fantastic details about practice of interest in the Jewish and Christian religions. The names, dates and exact background from Torah and Bible. It will give you solid material to talk to your christian friend.
Now i agree with you that the oldest "surviving" city is Damascus. However, i was talking in the background of centres of civilization. I wanted to know how ancient civilizations dealt with this problem of interest. As you know of the three known ancient civilizations (Mesopotamia, Indus, Egypt), the first one was the oldest (www.geocities.com). They invented writing there besides many other first. As you also know that Babylon was the calling card of this civilization. It was an urban centre (huge metropolis) where people live non agricultural life. Therefore, the laws codified by Hammurabi are considered first laws of mankind. I should have used the world centre of civilization rather than city.
Thanks anyway for your correction.
I hope we will further extend this dialogue and enrich each other
Allah Hafiz
Edited by - Pervez on Sep 26 2003 051422 AM
Edited by - Pervez on Sep 26 2003 052628 AM
Thnks friends for your encouraging words. I would like to reply to some of the points raised by you friends.
First for Zubair, i think the material on the subject is very clear. It is not only forbidden to charge but to pay interest also. A famous Hadith says
"The Apostle of Allah (PBUH) cursed the one who accepted usury, the one who paid it, the witness to it, and the one who recorded it"
The matter is so important that Holly Prophet(PBUH) devoted considerable amount of time in his last Khutba on the issue of usury.
I quote the relevant part of the address below
"ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore, all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer an inequity. Allah has judged that there shall be no interest and that interest due to Abbas Ibn Abd'al Muttalib (Prophet's uncle) shall henceforth be waived.."
I was almost shocked to realize how important this practice is when i found another Hadith that says
"sin of interest dealing is thirty times more compared to the sin of
adultery"
Now for Guybrush
I have address of a very interesting website www.missionislam.com.
You have to search for section that deal with usury. There, you will find fantastic details about practice of interest in the Jewish and Christian religions. The names, dates and exact background from Torah and Bible. It will give you solid material to talk to your christian friend.
Now i agree with you that the oldest "surviving" city is Damascus. However, i was talking in the background of centres of civilization. I wanted to know how ancient civilizations dealt with this problem of interest. As you know of the three known ancient civilizations (Mesopotamia, Indus, Egypt), the first one was the oldest (www.geocities.com). They invented writing there besides many other first. As you also know that Babylon was the calling card of this civilization. It was an urban centre (huge metropolis) where people live non agricultural life. Therefore, the laws codified by Hammurabi are considered first laws of mankind. I should have used the world centre of civilization rather than city.
Thanks anyway for your correction.
I hope we will further extend this dialogue and enrich each other
Allah Hafiz
Edited by - Pervez on Sep 26 2003 051422 AM
Edited by - Pervez on Sep 26 2003 052628 AM