08-13-2006, 12:54 AM
Pracs, you know that I canât disagree with you. So, we have clarified that the basis of Pakistan was two-nation theory. Indus civilization is something to supplement this division and it could never be claimed as the basis. This is what we both have agreed.
There are many people in Pakistan who disagree with religion being the basis of a nation. I am not among them. We leave it aside, we agree that religion may be and is the basis of Pakistan.
There are some reason which may lead to some doubts about two-nation theory. Firstly was it not a betrayal with Indian Muslim. I mean that this division was in the interest of some of the Indian Muslims not all of them. Infact, it had been harmful for the Muslims left in India. Muslims were in majority in eastern parts, east Punjab, Bengal, however, a reasonable amount of Muslims was scattered in other parts of Sub Continent. Would that I could come with some stats, but 1/3rd may be a safe estimate. So looking from this point of view for the interests of 2/3rd of Muslims of Sub Continent the rest were left to their fate. Has not it been selfish? My ancestors before participation lived in present Pakistan, so no efforts from them just advantage. You must have noticed that people who lived in Pakistan before division and those who come from east Punjab have no objections on two-nation theory and Muslim leaders. However, those who migrated from other parts of sub continent, presently they are in Karachi and other cities of Sindh have much regrets regarding this division and perhaps they were the people who have to bear more hardships in all this process. This behavior of people got to have some reasons. One more thing which had to be considered in this regard many people had not the choice to come to Pakistan, and at the same time the Muslims in Punjab had no choice but to migrate to Pakistan, as the case was with the Sikhs of east Punjab.
Some others objections are also there but with the intention of keeping this discussion to the point and concise Iâll state them in next post. Infact the âUnthak Mahnatâ and de colonization by Labourers themselve have also to be looked at.
I canât claim that youâve not been objective and rational, however, from one angle your post may seem to be some patriot Pakistaniâs point of view. One more thing taken wrongly be you or I was not able to explain that properly, discussions to be fruitful need to be systematic and in some method.
I hope that all this is not a mere waste of time and my intentions are never argument for the sake of argument.
Shoaib
There are many people in Pakistan who disagree with religion being the basis of a nation. I am not among them. We leave it aside, we agree that religion may be and is the basis of Pakistan.
There are some reason which may lead to some doubts about two-nation theory. Firstly was it not a betrayal with Indian Muslim. I mean that this division was in the interest of some of the Indian Muslims not all of them. Infact, it had been harmful for the Muslims left in India. Muslims were in majority in eastern parts, east Punjab, Bengal, however, a reasonable amount of Muslims was scattered in other parts of Sub Continent. Would that I could come with some stats, but 1/3rd may be a safe estimate. So looking from this point of view for the interests of 2/3rd of Muslims of Sub Continent the rest were left to their fate. Has not it been selfish? My ancestors before participation lived in present Pakistan, so no efforts from them just advantage. You must have noticed that people who lived in Pakistan before division and those who come from east Punjab have no objections on two-nation theory and Muslim leaders. However, those who migrated from other parts of sub continent, presently they are in Karachi and other cities of Sindh have much regrets regarding this division and perhaps they were the people who have to bear more hardships in all this process. This behavior of people got to have some reasons. One more thing which had to be considered in this regard many people had not the choice to come to Pakistan, and at the same time the Muslims in Punjab had no choice but to migrate to Pakistan, as the case was with the Sikhs of east Punjab.
Some others objections are also there but with the intention of keeping this discussion to the point and concise Iâll state them in next post. Infact the âUnthak Mahnatâ and de colonization by Labourers themselve have also to be looked at.
I canât claim that youâve not been objective and rational, however, from one angle your post may seem to be some patriot Pakistaniâs point of view. One more thing taken wrongly be you or I was not able to explain that properly, discussions to be fruitful need to be systematic and in some method.
I hope that all this is not a mere waste of time and my intentions are never argument for the sake of argument.
Shoaib
