05-10-2008, 07:23 PM
Dear Amir,
It is not really hard to challenge you on paper to papare basis analysis. Don't let some one to fall in this game of no benefits. Some one irritated of your fake analysis will challenge you, you will institute a very long debate, and at the end, you will say you agree to bala bala things with an exception to that particular thing. And again that particular thing will only be revolving around your rigid thinking and nothing else.
The thing which I have ever been pointing out and which you need to analyse and know is the future of a student after completing a certain qualification. Of course the future of ACCAs in PAKISTAN as compared to CAs is not as much bright as you portray. If you feel in some areas ACCA is partially better (which I don't agree) even then the stuff like policies, paper settings, study texts, exemptions etc etc are not a sufficient reason to prove it better than CA. All over the world it is not better than CA or CPA. You know this fact.
We have so many times talked about pay scales, lesser demand for ACCAs, expertise of ACCAs as so-called "business planners", future in next 50 years, absence of oppurtunities for ACCA as a main charterholder for public practice any where in the world, key positions held by ACCAs in Pakistan, effectiveness of ACCA Pakistan Chapter, specific categories of students opting to do ACCA instead of CA and so on.
You know ACCA is not in competition at least in Pakistan. Outside Pakistan again CAs have more worth than ACCAs and hold more key positions than ACCAs. I also explained that even in UK, there are so many local ACCAs, as accounting profession is considered relatively easier than other professional fields. And due to this, the people who have done ACCA at Pakistan typically face difficulties in finding jobs at UK when they migrate.
After doing ACCA if some one does not get desired results (at Pakistan) and then he starts growling against ICAP policies, then it would be totally his own fault of making such decision. You must agree that people normally don't take ACCA as a focal qualification. Rather, they feel it a gate way to certain other qualifications. You can also see this very feeling largely on this forum. This shows what ACCA carries the importance as an isolated qualification. You cannot make it a base for your career in job simply. Rather you can use it as a base for your future in order to have further qualifications of other esteemed institutes. Therefore you can call it an intermediary qualification whereas CA is in itself an esteemed qualification and profession. Here lies the difference. CA is an esteemed qualification while ACCA could be a gate way to some esteemed qualification. You cannot make any comparison between the two. I know nothing can affect your prejudiced approach.
I just wish to close down this un-ending debate with remarks that do you feel that so-called better paper-setting techniques can give a student what he percieves and expects from his career in real practical life. I tell you NEVER. In Pakistan NEVER. In other countries like UAE (or to some extent in UK) you may find reasonable place but still in most of positions you would be dominated by CAs or CPAs. Every one can study the market to reach a conclusion. And if still he supports the idea of doing ACCA, he should do it.
Afterall every one is responsible for his acts and decisions.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
It is not really hard to challenge you on paper to papare basis analysis. Don't let some one to fall in this game of no benefits. Some one irritated of your fake analysis will challenge you, you will institute a very long debate, and at the end, you will say you agree to bala bala things with an exception to that particular thing. And again that particular thing will only be revolving around your rigid thinking and nothing else.
The thing which I have ever been pointing out and which you need to analyse and know is the future of a student after completing a certain qualification. Of course the future of ACCAs in PAKISTAN as compared to CAs is not as much bright as you portray. If you feel in some areas ACCA is partially better (which I don't agree) even then the stuff like policies, paper settings, study texts, exemptions etc etc are not a sufficient reason to prove it better than CA. All over the world it is not better than CA or CPA. You know this fact.
We have so many times talked about pay scales, lesser demand for ACCAs, expertise of ACCAs as so-called "business planners", future in next 50 years, absence of oppurtunities for ACCA as a main charterholder for public practice any where in the world, key positions held by ACCAs in Pakistan, effectiveness of ACCA Pakistan Chapter, specific categories of students opting to do ACCA instead of CA and so on.
You know ACCA is not in competition at least in Pakistan. Outside Pakistan again CAs have more worth than ACCAs and hold more key positions than ACCAs. I also explained that even in UK, there are so many local ACCAs, as accounting profession is considered relatively easier than other professional fields. And due to this, the people who have done ACCA at Pakistan typically face difficulties in finding jobs at UK when they migrate.
After doing ACCA if some one does not get desired results (at Pakistan) and then he starts growling against ICAP policies, then it would be totally his own fault of making such decision. You must agree that people normally don't take ACCA as a focal qualification. Rather, they feel it a gate way to certain other qualifications. You can also see this very feeling largely on this forum. This shows what ACCA carries the importance as an isolated qualification. You cannot make it a base for your career in job simply. Rather you can use it as a base for your future in order to have further qualifications of other esteemed institutes. Therefore you can call it an intermediary qualification whereas CA is in itself an esteemed qualification and profession. Here lies the difference. CA is an esteemed qualification while ACCA could be a gate way to some esteemed qualification. You cannot make any comparison between the two. I know nothing can affect your prejudiced approach.
I just wish to close down this un-ending debate with remarks that do you feel that so-called better paper-setting techniques can give a student what he percieves and expects from his career in real practical life. I tell you NEVER. In Pakistan NEVER. In other countries like UAE (or to some extent in UK) you may find reasonable place but still in most of positions you would be dominated by CAs or CPAs. Every one can study the market to reach a conclusion. And if still he supports the idea of doing ACCA, he should do it.
Afterall every one is responsible for his acts and decisions.
Regards,
KAMRAN.