10-07-2010, 07:40 AM
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<br />ive heard cima is exempting b.com from 1st 5 papers who register before 31st otctober 2010. with all due respect, this sounds more like a doscount bargain on a shoe store than coming from a professional body who for years awarded only about 4 or 5 exemptions to pakistani CMA's and baout 6 or 7 to Pakistani CA's. its a shame that these british so called world class accounting bodies stoop so low in 3rd world countries like Pakistani just to get as many students as possible and the govt over here is totally sleeping. so much precious foreign exchange going out unabated in the name of exam fees and all....
this is not the case in india, when icaew tried to enter indian market sometime back, the ICAI went to court and stopped them from counducting papers in india, icaew was then forced to enter in a humilitaing contract whereby a CA from india is exempted all 14 papers of ICAEW and is only required to take the case study whilse a CA from ICAEW who wants to do india CA, must pass all papers of final part. isnt it strange??? consider the fact that in India they have only recently started adopting IAS and IFRS whereas relevant papers of ICAEW have beeb based on IAS and IFRS for a long time....
another interesting aspect is that Pakistani CA's r allowed exemptions of 13 out of 14 papers, and that too after actively being pursued by ICAP....
another aspect of the matter is that as far as i know (correct me if i am wrong), threre r about 145k qualified CA's from ICAI and around 120k students, that means a pakistani CA who completes ICAEW qualification has a lot of competitors in the international market....
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Waysay waqai CIMA ki yah policy kutch samajh nahi aai. Main nay pahlay nahi comment kia kay bhai log bura na maan jain kahin. Warna soorat-e-haal kutch Oct 31 tak ki sale jari hay ki si hi lagti hay.
Raha sawal, ICAEW nay kis ko kitni exemptions di, tu mayray khyal main baykaar baat hay. Jitna mil raha hay wo bhi kafi hay. 1 ya 2 paper idhar ya odhar say kitna farg paray ga jabkay passing result bhi above 80% hay. Iss liay jo bhi hay os say faida othain.
Bhai, front line par maar ham kha rahay hain, dono taraf walay bhi, fauji bhi hamaray hi maartay hain, kahtay hain akaylaa nahi chorain gay Pakistan ko mushkil main, aur phir jakar doosray mulk say civil nuclear technology ka muaahida kartay hain. Oper say na tu hamain technology daytay hain, aur agar koi hamara doosra dost mulk hamain koi 1 ya 2 plant bhi laga kar dayni ki batain karay tu oska bhi technical terms ki baat karkay rasta roknay ki koshish kartay hain. Yah tu haal hay hamari maddad kay daway daron ka. Na khud khailna na hi kisi doosray ko khailnay dayna. Ab aysi soorat-e-haal main ham equal treatments ki kia batain karain bhai. Iss liay jo mil raha hay ossi par qanaat karain aur apnay aap ko kisi qabil banai.
Raha swal lot of international competition ka tu bhai competition kay dar say ghar par tu nahi baytha raha jasakta hay.
Aaj bhi aur aanay wala waqt bhi knowledge based economies ka hay. Global village main ham taqreeban har field main (including accounting) skilled based global professionals supply karkay apni jaga bana saktay hain. Abhi tu ham nay middle east ki emerging markets bhi capture nahi ki hain. Even existing demand is much more than competition.
Think globally. Educate, train, and supply skilled professionals for global economy. This should be our aim.
Wasalam
<br />ive heard cima is exempting b.com from 1st 5 papers who register before 31st otctober 2010. with all due respect, this sounds more like a doscount bargain on a shoe store than coming from a professional body who for years awarded only about 4 or 5 exemptions to pakistani CMA's and baout 6 or 7 to Pakistani CA's. its a shame that these british so called world class accounting bodies stoop so low in 3rd world countries like Pakistani just to get as many students as possible and the govt over here is totally sleeping. so much precious foreign exchange going out unabated in the name of exam fees and all....
this is not the case in india, when icaew tried to enter indian market sometime back, the ICAI went to court and stopped them from counducting papers in india, icaew was then forced to enter in a humilitaing contract whereby a CA from india is exempted all 14 papers of ICAEW and is only required to take the case study whilse a CA from ICAEW who wants to do india CA, must pass all papers of final part. isnt it strange??? consider the fact that in India they have only recently started adopting IAS and IFRS whereas relevant papers of ICAEW have beeb based on IAS and IFRS for a long time....
another interesting aspect is that Pakistani CA's r allowed exemptions of 13 out of 14 papers, and that too after actively being pursued by ICAP....
another aspect of the matter is that as far as i know (correct me if i am wrong), threre r about 145k qualified CA's from ICAI and around 120k students, that means a pakistani CA who completes ICAEW qualification has a lot of competitors in the international market....
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Waysay waqai CIMA ki yah policy kutch samajh nahi aai. Main nay pahlay nahi comment kia kay bhai log bura na maan jain kahin. Warna soorat-e-haal kutch Oct 31 tak ki sale jari hay ki si hi lagti hay.
Raha sawal, ICAEW nay kis ko kitni exemptions di, tu mayray khyal main baykaar baat hay. Jitna mil raha hay wo bhi kafi hay. 1 ya 2 paper idhar ya odhar say kitna farg paray ga jabkay passing result bhi above 80% hay. Iss liay jo bhi hay os say faida othain.
Bhai, front line par maar ham kha rahay hain, dono taraf walay bhi, fauji bhi hamaray hi maartay hain, kahtay hain akaylaa nahi chorain gay Pakistan ko mushkil main, aur phir jakar doosray mulk say civil nuclear technology ka muaahida kartay hain. Oper say na tu hamain technology daytay hain, aur agar koi hamara doosra dost mulk hamain koi 1 ya 2 plant bhi laga kar dayni ki batain karay tu oska bhi technical terms ki baat karkay rasta roknay ki koshish kartay hain. Yah tu haal hay hamari maddad kay daway daron ka. Na khud khailna na hi kisi doosray ko khailnay dayna. Ab aysi soorat-e-haal main ham equal treatments ki kia batain karain bhai. Iss liay jo mil raha hay ossi par qanaat karain aur apnay aap ko kisi qabil banai.
Raha swal lot of international competition ka tu bhai competition kay dar say ghar par tu nahi baytha raha jasakta hay.
Aaj bhi aur aanay wala waqt bhi knowledge based economies ka hay. Global village main ham taqreeban har field main (including accounting) skilled based global professionals supply karkay apni jaga bana saktay hain. Abhi tu ham nay middle east ki emerging markets bhi capture nahi ki hain. Even existing demand is much more than competition.
Think globally. Educate, train, and supply skilled professionals for global economy. This should be our aim.
Wasalam