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10-09-2010, 04:58 PM

Vital

I can understand the points raised by you and feel some of them are very important to focus on. However, I wish to provide some explanation in succeeding paragraphs of this post.

Since I am not a student, I don’t know if President’s communications were/are also directed to students. As far as members are concerned, a thorough debate was undertaken by getting feedback from all members of ICAP and based upon majority’s view the plan for introducing the industrial training was “postponed” for consideration at a later stage, if it would be warranted. This later decision taken pursuant to members’ feedback was also communicated to all members. As I said earlier, I don’t know whether or not the President’s Communications are sent to students. However, if these are sent, the later decision should have also come in the knowledge of students as it was duly announced and communicated to members.

Your comparison of IASB and ICAP is incorrect in my view point. You should compare ICAP with ICAEW, ICAA or CICA, or ICAI etc for the purpose you did. I can point out a number of issues where the decisions at these bodies took the “due” process of time and the words “SOON” and “SHORTLY” have been used. Even these words have been used by some bodies in communication with myself. Bringing reforms in education or training aspects is not an overnight task. You have to streamline a lot of things e.g to do the following

- compare practices with others;
- find the merits and demerits of others’ procedures;
- analyze that what witnessed failure historically and what remained successful;
- analyze what will suit our environment and what will not;
- find out, what can be adopted as it is and what requires alterations;
- analyze, to whom new reforms will be going to affect;
- find, what to do about the students who are already studying under existing set-up and how they can be transformed to the upcoming changes;
- analyze, what would be the impact on upcoming MRAs/MOUs;
- analyze, how such upcoming MRAs/MOUs will affect the already qualified people in post reform implementation scenario

……………….so forth and so on.

So brother, these things are always time taking, are usually open to dialogue at various committees and the council meetings despite that principle decision have been taken; and require a lot of brain storming and concrete efforts.

The reforms which you are expecting are purposed at to develop a baseline for entering into other MRAs in future, since we have to do what makes it easier for us. This does not raise a question on existent quality but on how familiar others are with our procedures and systems and how close we are in our system with others to convince the acceptability. Others don’t find any lucrative interests in 5000plus members when revenues are in focus, so we have to do a lot to enhance the visibility of these 5000plus people by certain reforms and restructurings. Doing this is a very watchful job and has to consume the time that you are witnessing.

We should be more interested in, how efficiently the reforms will be structured and what effects these will bring on profession, instead of worrying for delay of few months.

As far as the question is concerned on what “SOON” means, I recall the incident of first dialogue of Hazrat Moosa A.S. with ALLAH, described by HOLY QURAN. In the very first dialogue Moosa A.S. was told that Qayamat” (i.e. End-of-Times) is coming soonest (or in other words “End of Times” is at the door-step); and this message was repeated in that first dialogue. As a layman I can say that a few thousand years have gone after that dialogue but End-of-Times is still awaited. However, in fact this is not the case. The one meaning of “Soon” or “Soonest” supposedly include the reflection that something is “CRYSTAL CLEAR” or a “REALITY” or has been “DECIDED FOR NO REVISIONS” etc.

I don’t ask you to apply this example to ICAP’s reforms yet produced for your information. However, in my view the word “SOON” used in communications reflects the objectivity, affirmation of the decision and the focused effort being undertaken.

I hope the reforms would bring the desired results and benefits for all the students and profession as a whole.

Regards,

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