01-04-2005, 09:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>i told u that the only reason to declare this 50 percent criteria is to rectify the perception of the students and the general public that icap doen not pass even those students who get 70 percent marks in a without choice difficult paper.
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Dear Bilal
I think you are missing the point i am trying to make. ICAP can still fail a student who gets 70% marks unless it publishes the individual marks. For eg I appeared in an exam and after considering individual questions and my answers to them I believe that i should get around 60-65 marks, but when the result comes i see my name in the list of failures, i have no idea how can i be given less than 50 marks in that particular paper but since i have not been given the exact marks i will keep on repeating the same old story that ICAP's examination system is flawed.
i was a student of ACCA, i m telling you the truth when i used to come out of the examination hall i always knew straightaway if i have passed the paper or not, and to my surprise my marks were always within a deviation of + or - 5, now this is what i call a CRYSTAL CLEAR system and i see no harm adopting this system where i (being a student) have full confidence on my Institute. i have no fear in my heart that no matter how much i study i might be failed just because of the market pressure.
now ask yourself and your fellow students (if you are/were a student of ICAP) doesn't this fear exist in their hearts??? it does.......
now let me tell you another story. i am an ex-student of ICMAP. i passed upto Professional 2 in first go except 1 paper which was FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING in Foundation 2. i got referral in that paper. you know what bilal, i was expecting a permanent exemption in that paper, financial accounting has always been my strong point and i always scored flying numbers in financial accounting. My elder brother is an ACMA, he sometimes used to discuss my paper with me (as we were allowed to take the question papers with us), he was also damn sure that i haven't done any blunder in that paper and i should be able to score atleast 80 in that paper........sadly i sat that paper again and although i didn't do better this time i got a PERMANENT EXEMPTION. I am sure you would have heard similar stories from other students as well. My self-analysis could be wrong that time but why it always proved correct in ACCA.......
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>As far as specilization is concerned,once u pass papers like Advanced accounting,advanced auditing,corporate law,advanced taxation,management accounting etc of icap i can assure u with guarantee that ur knowledge is equal to,if not greater,to a person who has a phd degree in any of the above subjects.i mean,if u have studied all the IAS AND ISA and all the corporate laws,what else left to be read.
bilal
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my dear friend,
my normal reaction to such statements is usually very strong (and harsh for some people), since i have made a new year resolution to become a better human being and after being pointed out by some of the members here to curtail my aggression, i would only suggest you to please come out from this FANTASY WORLD.........i won't say no more and click the "post new reply" icon as it is best in OUR favour.
Please keep your assurance and guarantee with yourself, it is surely gonna help you out in future!!!
i wish you & ICAP all the best
kind regards
"You don't get to choose how you're going to die. Or when. You can only decide how you're going to live. Now."
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Dear Bilal
I think you are missing the point i am trying to make. ICAP can still fail a student who gets 70% marks unless it publishes the individual marks. For eg I appeared in an exam and after considering individual questions and my answers to them I believe that i should get around 60-65 marks, but when the result comes i see my name in the list of failures, i have no idea how can i be given less than 50 marks in that particular paper but since i have not been given the exact marks i will keep on repeating the same old story that ICAP's examination system is flawed.
i was a student of ACCA, i m telling you the truth when i used to come out of the examination hall i always knew straightaway if i have passed the paper or not, and to my surprise my marks were always within a deviation of + or - 5, now this is what i call a CRYSTAL CLEAR system and i see no harm adopting this system where i (being a student) have full confidence on my Institute. i have no fear in my heart that no matter how much i study i might be failed just because of the market pressure.
now ask yourself and your fellow students (if you are/were a student of ICAP) doesn't this fear exist in their hearts??? it does.......
now let me tell you another story. i am an ex-student of ICMAP. i passed upto Professional 2 in first go except 1 paper which was FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING in Foundation 2. i got referral in that paper. you know what bilal, i was expecting a permanent exemption in that paper, financial accounting has always been my strong point and i always scored flying numbers in financial accounting. My elder brother is an ACMA, he sometimes used to discuss my paper with me (as we were allowed to take the question papers with us), he was also damn sure that i haven't done any blunder in that paper and i should be able to score atleast 80 in that paper........sadly i sat that paper again and although i didn't do better this time i got a PERMANENT EXEMPTION. I am sure you would have heard similar stories from other students as well. My self-analysis could be wrong that time but why it always proved correct in ACCA.......
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>As far as specilization is concerned,once u pass papers like Advanced accounting,advanced auditing,corporate law,advanced taxation,management accounting etc of icap i can assure u with guarantee that ur knowledge is equal to,if not greater,to a person who has a phd degree in any of the above subjects.i mean,if u have studied all the IAS AND ISA and all the corporate laws,what else left to be read.
bilal
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my dear friend,
my normal reaction to such statements is usually very strong (and harsh for some people), since i have made a new year resolution to become a better human being and after being pointed out by some of the members here to curtail my aggression, i would only suggest you to please come out from this FANTASY WORLD.........i won't say no more and click the "post new reply" icon as it is best in OUR favour.
Please keep your assurance and guarantee with yourself, it is surely gonna help you out in future!!!
i wish you & ICAP all the best
kind regards
"You don't get to choose how you're going to die. Or when. You can only decide how you're going to live. Now."