04-30-2007, 08:56 PM
Dears,
Amir is very good at saving the repute of ACCA all alone. While all others know what ACCA is. Amir has recommended to get other qualifications after ACCA. He should clear that whether he suggested it due to any short-coming in ACCA or due to having extra knowledge and grooming. By the way I agree his idea of having more than one qualification.
In one of his posts I read that he has advised ACCA to do what was correct in his view. Just imagine his confidence. He is student of second stage/module/part I think and he is advising his association not requesting it. Hopefully he wud do so much after qualification, Inshallah.
We have an employee who is ACCA qualified and we are paying him Rupees 15,000 per month and he is quite happy with it. I dont disregard ACCA but it has to take some experience and time to make a place in Pakistan.
Mr. Amir should base his comments on realities. What a joke is it that he again and again assures his ACCA community about ACCA's worth but again and again guys are showing doubts over it.
Off course he is correct that audit is not the only field to be adopted. Still, we must not let the others to be mislead. Can he point out 15 or 20 ACCAs who are working on top most jobs in Pakistan in terms of pay, status, and exposure without having parallel CA qualification? While one can point out 1,000 of ICAPIANS and much more than it. I mean even more than 99%. We are not discussing the rare cases. Sampling has to be done from the whole population.
I dont have to prove CA better than ACCA. It is already proved whatever Mr. Amir expresses the concerns. I have full regard for ACCAs becoz it is a well known qualification. (I dont use the word "prestegious" and it is not my biase.)
Let's us capture the basic point. The matter for an individual is not the recognition of ACCA in such and such so-called number of countries. One Pakistani has to foresee his future in Pakistan. It is most preferrable. The guys who have worked in Dubai etc can be consulted what the environment is over there. Yes, if some body has certain plan of migration to UK or gulf, ACCA can work for him. In my view very nominal number of individuals can succeed settling down in UK not for the visa reasons (as HSMP visa is available) rather for the reason of every one's own circumstances.
I dont have any concern for any one if he is going to join CA or ACCA. One should use his/her mind and can take decision. But in my view ACCA should be choosed only if one does not have a plan to make a place in Pakistan.
As far as ICAP policies are concerned, I feel these are in accordance with IFAC's charter and are similar to other Institutes of Chartered Accountants. For clarification, I mention that I dont regard CIMAs or CMAs or ACCAs as chartered accountants. This is my own view. No body should be affected. If some one dont find CA achievable due to whatever reason or so-called ICAP policies he should not disregard it. Either come upto its standard and get the CA qualification or dont call it "GRAPES ARE SOUR".
Rest assured, in Pakistan, only those give statements against CA who dont find theirselves able to do it due to whatever engineered reasons. I think no body should have any doubt over it.
I dont have any enemity with ACCAs, they are like our brothers. This post is only aimed at to save the new entrants from misconceptions.
Hope every one would find what has been written in his destiny.
Best regards,
Kamran.
Amir is very good at saving the repute of ACCA all alone. While all others know what ACCA is. Amir has recommended to get other qualifications after ACCA. He should clear that whether he suggested it due to any short-coming in ACCA or due to having extra knowledge and grooming. By the way I agree his idea of having more than one qualification.
In one of his posts I read that he has advised ACCA to do what was correct in his view. Just imagine his confidence. He is student of second stage/module/part I think and he is advising his association not requesting it. Hopefully he wud do so much after qualification, Inshallah.
We have an employee who is ACCA qualified and we are paying him Rupees 15,000 per month and he is quite happy with it. I dont disregard ACCA but it has to take some experience and time to make a place in Pakistan.
Mr. Amir should base his comments on realities. What a joke is it that he again and again assures his ACCA community about ACCA's worth but again and again guys are showing doubts over it.
Off course he is correct that audit is not the only field to be adopted. Still, we must not let the others to be mislead. Can he point out 15 or 20 ACCAs who are working on top most jobs in Pakistan in terms of pay, status, and exposure without having parallel CA qualification? While one can point out 1,000 of ICAPIANS and much more than it. I mean even more than 99%. We are not discussing the rare cases. Sampling has to be done from the whole population.
I dont have to prove CA better than ACCA. It is already proved whatever Mr. Amir expresses the concerns. I have full regard for ACCAs becoz it is a well known qualification. (I dont use the word "prestegious" and it is not my biase.)
Let's us capture the basic point. The matter for an individual is not the recognition of ACCA in such and such so-called number of countries. One Pakistani has to foresee his future in Pakistan. It is most preferrable. The guys who have worked in Dubai etc can be consulted what the environment is over there. Yes, if some body has certain plan of migration to UK or gulf, ACCA can work for him. In my view very nominal number of individuals can succeed settling down in UK not for the visa reasons (as HSMP visa is available) rather for the reason of every one's own circumstances.
I dont have any concern for any one if he is going to join CA or ACCA. One should use his/her mind and can take decision. But in my view ACCA should be choosed only if one does not have a plan to make a place in Pakistan.
As far as ICAP policies are concerned, I feel these are in accordance with IFAC's charter and are similar to other Institutes of Chartered Accountants. For clarification, I mention that I dont regard CIMAs or CMAs or ACCAs as chartered accountants. This is my own view. No body should be affected. If some one dont find CA achievable due to whatever reason or so-called ICAP policies he should not disregard it. Either come upto its standard and get the CA qualification or dont call it "GRAPES ARE SOUR".
Rest assured, in Pakistan, only those give statements against CA who dont find theirselves able to do it due to whatever engineered reasons. I think no body should have any doubt over it.
I dont have any enemity with ACCAs, they are like our brothers. This post is only aimed at to save the new entrants from misconceptions.
Hope every one would find what has been written in his destiny.
Best regards,
Kamran.