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ICAP humiliating itself
12-22-2008, 05:54 PM,
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Dear Aliboy,


Your last post has not taken into account my concerns over ACCAs in Pakistan and the facts enlisted therein.

You have gone in such an explanation only against my comments that "I am not sure but if you say I accept that ACCA is allowed to be in public practice at 80 countries". Obviously, I don't have major doubts in it but I am not sure because I am not ACCA.

I did not say that ACCA is not chartered at UK /Ireland. Rather I said it is not chartered here and is merely a company registered/incorporated under section 42 of Companies Ordinance, 1984. Apparently, Companies Ordinance, 1984 is not a law of UK.

As far as recognition or license in 80 countries etc is concerned I already agree that if it is correct it is a good achievement. I am not in substantial doubts. However, the major issue is not of how much some association is spread out on the globe. In fact the issue is to consider how effectively it is spread out in essence in its shape and design. Simply carrying licenses in Ghana, Armenia, Georgia, Barbados, Turkey, Lesotho, Malawi and what not and what not across the globe is not the all about a designation or qualification should possess. I agree it is good achievement. But the real thing is to consider its effective position locally, at each location. This is a thin line to concentrate at but this carries all what we need to understand. Certainly when you will go to check its localized positions (except UK, Ireland with a few other locations) you may feel it falls far short of others in competition. Mr. Khalid has his-self mentioned the position at India. At Pakistan facts are in front of you. In Canada even writing and claiming the designation ACCA on some one’s official letter-head pad is a crime (some one told at this forum). I explained you that in Pakistan ACMAs are allowed to be in public practice. Now how many public companies and quality clients they have in their portfolio is another issue. You must appreciate that having license from as many years as ACMA could not make them the leaders. This is the thing which I want you to understand which you totally ignored. Leaving a few countries in the list, if you go to institute a research, you may find similar position for ACCAs in so many countries across the globe. They might have been recognized / licensed from years but what they have in their portfolios would tell you the story.

Getting a test cap is a big issue for a cricketer, every one will agree, but how he will perform and how one such player had been performing since years is another question. And if any one will talk about the quality he/she will not consider getting the test cap as a quality, rather, the performance will be the thing to be analyzed.

Apart from the above, which is based only on a very nominal amount of knowledge about ACCA globally, I am strictly of the view, that for a Pakistani student, the recognition of ACCA carries no meaning, if he has to stay at Pakistan.

Yes, if some one wants to move, he can use ACCA as a gate way to better qualifications at other locations. But to remember is that it may not be a good designation at its own for having the leading positions. UK and Ireland could be exception. I also agree that at middle-east it also has a good acceptance.

I am not talking about the rare cases which are expected to exist every where.

By the way ACCA is so wise that one day you will see its recognition at Antarctica as well. I am kidding, so, please don't mind.

I did not consider your words offensive, I said I like deliberations and healthy discussions. The ones who talk little-heartedly should their-selves check where they are and what they are. I don’t want to go in details because such things are not offensive, rather are the source of amusement. One should keep in view his position. It’s good for him/her.


Regards,



KAMRAN.

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