ICAP humiliating itself

[kamranACA]

Dear Khalid,


I have no doubt that you are a qualified member of ACCA. Yes you are. It's totally reflected in your absurd post. I don't discuss myself in person. Most of the qualified forum members know me personally.

We have so many times been discussing that study texts, curriculums, number of papers etc have in fact nothing to do with how such designation is reflected in the market. I always tell the readers to get the market based evidence. My every such post speaks about it. It is not a new thing if some unsound mind finds it so. One should have gone through all my posts on this issue if he is going to debate on it. The mentally incapacitated statement has not come first time from some ACCA member/student. There had been such comparisons and statements earlier on this forum as well.

What study materials are in place, how many papers have to be passed, what's examiners' approach are the issues of students and not of the qualified people in practice or job. This is not a new logic and has already been discussed well on various threads. Professional perspective is always different from the teachers' or students' perspective. I guess Khalid is still endeavoring to use his ACCA for some better qualification that's why he is more focused on papers, colleges, teachers etc.

Caliber of ICAP members is such that all your ACCAs in Pakistan are bound to be their students. They learn from them, idealize them and conceive every thing from them. Even the ones who come from UK are dependent upon them. I can quote examples. I have at the moment two applications from two UK return ACCAs who want to join my firm. However, unlike you, I must say that it is not a disgrace of ACCAs. They have to be dependent for so many reasons.

The equality, while considering at institutes level, may not be what appears logical to your mind. Because you have one ACCA mind that had probably remained dependent upon CAs of India. You appear to have such complexes. If this appears to be disrespect then why not the reduced recognition of ACCA at India (as you told) and at Pakistan appears to you as such. In fact if ACCA has lesser recognition in Pakistan or India, it is not its disrespect as well. You must try to understand that exemptions and recognitions have to be based upon so many things and cannot merely be made a matter of non-equivalence. No Pakistani student will be required to go UK for getting some out of the world training. The training providers are also from and among their own-selves.

There could be some debate on two years training but one must note that such training is to be obtained from ICAP people. This is recognition of ICAP members and their training strengths. ICEAW no where authorized ACCA of Pakistan to provide such training, and even if they will do, it will not be odd at all. Things should progress with the time. We are not at the stage of judgment day.

What I feel the reason of putting in such condition was that the ICEAW wanted to have its authorized training offices at Pakistan and it has started from allowing it for those who go for ICEAW after ICAP’s CA. Later on it may also be available to entrants of ICEAW under other streams as it is available in certain countries. We have to see what future brings with it. I don’t know why a person sitting at UK is feeling such a pain due to the matter to which he is entirely not related and affected.

Yes, ACCA members tend to become ICEAW members for the reason that they know ICEAW had been a better institute. If this is not the case, why they wish to do this at all. I don’t know why some ACCAs feel they are going to takeover everything in this world. Previously a statement was given that ACCA was going to take up ICAP market. Now the above post wishes to pin point that similar things are going to happen with ICEAW. Mashallah !!!
I will again say that no body came with anything to debate against my view point about ACCAs at Pakistan and are just beating about the bush to revolve around the matter. I look forward to something reasonable from the contributors.


Regards,



KAMRAN.