ICAP humiliating itself

[kamranACA]

Rabia,

"Claims" refer to your comments on my views about ACCA in Pakistan. You certainly don't know Pakistani market and you are annulling the facts posted about ACCA in Pakistan. So much is reflected in your, as well as Khalid's posts. No body said that ACCAs don't find jobs at Pakistan at all. Yes they don't find jobs which are normally entrusted to CAs. They are mostly in lower cadre or on lower pays. This is a fact. This has nothing to do with whatever advertisements about job openings are given and whatever agreements PSO, Shell, ICI, Worldbank etc has entered into. You can try to change it over the time. Let's see Khalid's couple of years. I wonder why prime minister is not authorizing ACCA to act otherwise than an association not for profit (section 42 of Companies Ordinance 1984). What an achievement by ACCA to invite the PM.

I wonder if mentally retarded people conclude others as mentally retarded. If this is true then at least all doctors specializing in this field should have to re-visit their decision. Great point you have made.

The word “charter” creates itch to someone, irrespective of whatever ACCA is. Please also note my primary discussion is about Pakistani market and here this body is not "chartered". It's merely a company under section 42 of the Companies Ordinance, 1984. Apply your mind please. If it is chartered at UK, this will give no benefit to the people living at Pakistan.

I don't know which proof you require. I suggest you one thing. Complete your ACCA from Pakistan and go to UK for job and check your acceptance. You can also do another thing. Complete your ACCA at UAE, come to Pakistan and then check what comes out for you. These will be the biggest proofs. Try to explore them.

If you talk about UAE, yes I agree ACCA is good at UAE. I never denied. However, it is not going to engulf any gulf. I wonder you ask for proofs and fail to provide at your own. I am here to see what ACCA will engulf. Let me know if it does.

The mutual recognitions and acceptances find their roots in so many things. The quality of institute may be one factor but I believe that eventually all such decisions are based upon other valid considerations. If you try to understand and if you go through the previous posts you may be able to understand it. If you don't, then I cannot help you.

As per your version (what you adopted for ICAP), if ACCA is disregarded at India (as Khalid said) or is not given desired exemptions at Pakistan or is not recognized here like so called 80 countries, do you feel it's a great disrespect or shame for you all ACCAs who being Pakistani opted the qualification which is disrespected or humiliated locally. Do you somewhere in your minds feel yourselves disrespected etc being Pakistanis entirely. Do you? "Disrespected", "shame", "disregarded" and "humiliation" etc are your words that's why these have been used. In my view, certainly not. If ACCA is not that recognized at such places it's not it's disrespect. I again say there are so many factors which decide such things. I wonder if you can understand it.

Rabia, there are certain things which you raised in your reply to Ali. Its strange if you think that a student of whatever level is in a position to advise others. Students of any designation, having no other enabling qualification in hand, should not advise the others on professional matters. Mind it. If you think other-wise it’s your own belief.

Further, Ali was talking about Pakistan specific situation. He has not given any remarks about UAE. Don't revolve it otherwise to deduce your own meanings. Do you feel in Pakistan ACCAs are professionally not dependent on CAs. If yes, then keep on having such belief. No wonders, you are an ACCA student.

The comparison made by you regarding fees of ACCA and CA is again reflective of your meager understanding about what Ali was saying. Your high understanding level throughout (I say throughout) this thread depicts that you are purely an ACCA student. Ali was comparing fees charged by ACCA and ICAP and not the fees charged by Tuition providers. Now what can I call it? Such ACCA people are trying to capture the blunders of others ignoring normal human limitations. Mashallah!!!

Khalid,

Dear your latest post is equally good to provide a source of amusement. Keep on good work buddy!!!


Regards,



KAMRAN.