04-24-2006, 02:47 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Azeem Shah Khan</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">No. CAs are the CAs and they cant be equal not just on the basis you mentioned but I have seen ACCAs working in CA firms, we people also work in market. I know their approache of working, applying shortcuts everywhere! So no need to write another post in response of this one because its not gonna work.
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Dear Ali
Please let me know some of these short cuts as well, I am trying to think where these can be applied in practice where almost every single task is instructed in the audit programme or practice manuals.
I trained CIMA, ACCA, CA(EW), CA(Pak) trainees, they used to do what I asked them to do, they had to follow my instructions. Following the standard procedures and manager's instructions is trainee's responsibilty, if they dont follow them it is their own mistake, their professional body cant be blamed for this. Secondly you cant generalise your observation of few individuals on the qualification as a whole. Every now and then lots of CAs are reprimanded for corruption and unethical actions, you cant blame ICAP for their actions. It is the individual not the qualification. If a muslim commits a sin you wont blame Islam for that.....hope this makes sense.
You wrote in your post that you dont want me to respond to it as it will not work? Why is that? Isn't it like saying my toy is better than yours? when it isn't? I have expressed my views in a very neutral way, without demeaning a qualification. I havent said CA is inferior or anything, all qualifications are good and no one is superior to no one.
Kind regards
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If the corruption has been occured, its the ICAP which takes action against its own members and maintains the quality control.
If the ICAEW has not been superseded by ACCA in its UK then ICAP in Pakistan is far far away for them. In the end I will say that my stance is not that, you people consider CA as inferior to ACCA, my stance is that don't consider ACCA to be equal to CA, its my own belive and perception and no one has right to impose his ideas but the person should be wise enough to make a logical judgement.
ICAPians, the unparalleled..
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">No. CAs are the CAs and they cant be equal not just on the basis you mentioned but I have seen ACCAs working in CA firms, we people also work in market. I know their approache of working, applying shortcuts everywhere! So no need to write another post in response of this one because its not gonna work.
ICAPians, the unparalleled..<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Dear Ali
Please let me know some of these short cuts as well, I am trying to think where these can be applied in practice where almost every single task is instructed in the audit programme or practice manuals.
I trained CIMA, ACCA, CA(EW), CA(Pak) trainees, they used to do what I asked them to do, they had to follow my instructions. Following the standard procedures and manager's instructions is trainee's responsibilty, if they dont follow them it is their own mistake, their professional body cant be blamed for this. Secondly you cant generalise your observation of few individuals on the qualification as a whole. Every now and then lots of CAs are reprimanded for corruption and unethical actions, you cant blame ICAP for their actions. It is the individual not the qualification. If a muslim commits a sin you wont blame Islam for that.....hope this makes sense.
You wrote in your post that you dont want me to respond to it as it will not work? Why is that? Isn't it like saying my toy is better than yours? when it isn't? I have expressed my views in a very neutral way, without demeaning a qualification. I havent said CA is inferior or anything, all qualifications are good and no one is superior to no one.
Kind regards
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
If the corruption has been occured, its the ICAP which takes action against its own members and maintains the quality control.
If the ICAEW has not been superseded by ACCA in its UK then ICAP in Pakistan is far far away for them. In the end I will say that my stance is not that, you people consider CA as inferior to ACCA, my stance is that don't consider ACCA to be equal to CA, its my own belive and perception and no one has right to impose his ideas but the person should be wise enough to make a logical judgement.
ICAPians, the unparalleled..