Back up your opinion with logic and proof

sajjad_dar2000 · 05-12-2006, 05:54 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Humaira
 <blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ausmanpk2001
 this verses doesn't looks like from the quran. I have never heard any thing like this in quran. would you please tell the surat from which this is.

or maybe Just to make your 11 number story interesting you invented this ayat yourself.

this makes other 11 no. stats you gave suspicious. is it really true or you have also invented the other stats like the verses from quran to make your story??
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AOA

MR. usman aap say achay na sahi thoray hi sahi itnay Muslim to hum bhi hain thora bohat to Quran say hum bhi waqiff hain .....i think u may be did not red this verse or forget it ...any how Quran says;

in surah BAQARAH ayat # 169,

"WOH (SATAN) SIRF TUMHAIN BURAI AUR BEHAYAI HI KO KEHTA HAI AUR YEH K TUM ALLAH KI NISBAT WOH KAHOO JO TUM NAHI JANTAY"

AL-BAQARAH VERSE # 174;

"BAYSHAQ JO LOOG CHUPATAY HAIN WOH JO ALLAH NAY KITAAB SAY UTAARA AUR ISS K EEWAZ HAQEER DAAM SODAY MAIN LAY LAITAY HAIN WOH APNAY PAITOON MAIN SIRF AAG BHERTAY HAIN AUR ALLAH QIYAAMAT K ROZ IN SAY KALAAM NAHI KARAY GA AUR NA INHAIN PAK KARAY GA IN K LIYAY DERDNAAK AZAAB HAI"

SURAH-E-NAHEL VERSE #11616;

"AUR YOONHI JHOOT JO TUMHARI ZUBAAN PER AA JAY MAT KEH DIYA KAROOK YEH HALAL HAI AUR YEH HARAAM HAI K ALLAH PER JHOOT BOHTAAN BANDHNAY LAGOO. JO LOG ALLAH PER JHOOT BOHTAAN BANDHTAY HAIN WOH KAMYAAB NA HONGAY"

so, i think u got the point ...koi bhi jan boojh ker aisa ghinaoona jurum nahi karay ga sirf chand min ki appreciation k liyay....mind it n one thing more think brfore speak....
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Humaira read your reply in response to smurfyazhar post, hopefully you'll get answer of your Question "what's this[?][?]". no hard feeling plz

sajjad_dar2000 · 05-12-2006, 05:58 PM

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what's this [?][?]
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Its you proper definition.
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ha[D] ha[D] ha[D] ha[D] ha[D] ha[D] ha[D]

Muhammad Ahmad · 05-12-2006, 09:24 PM

Hi guyes,b serious in ur attitude and and one should have the courage to accept healthy criticism.

Regards

Humaira · 05-13-2006, 12:01 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sajjad_dar2000
 <blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Humaira
 <blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ausmanpk2001
 this verses doesn't looks like from the quran. I have never heard any thing like this in quran. would you please tell the surat from which this is.

or maybe Just to make your 11 number story interesting you invented this ayat yourself.

this makes other 11 no. stats you gave suspicious. is it really true or you have also invented the other stats like the verses from quran to make your story??
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AOA

MR. usman aap say achay na sahi thoray hi sahi itnay Muslim to hum bhi hain thora bohat to Quran say hum bhi waqiff hain .....i think u may be did not red this verse or forget it ...any how Quran says;

in surah BAQARAH ayat # 169,

"WOH (SATAN) SIRF TUMHAIN BURAI AUR BEHAYAI HI KO KEHTA HAI AUR YEH K TUM ALLAH KI NISBAT WOH KAHOO JO TUM NAHI JANTAY"

AL-BAQARAH VERSE # 174;

"BAYSHAQ JO LOOG CHUPATAY HAIN WOH JO ALLAH NAY KITAAB SAY UTAARA AUR ISS K EEWAZ HAQEER DAAM SODAY MAIN LAY LAITAY HAIN WOH APNAY PAITOON MAIN SIRF AAG BHERTAY HAIN AUR ALLAH QIYAAMAT K ROZ IN SAY KALAAM NAHI KARAY GA AUR NA INHAIN PAK KARAY GA IN K LIYAY DERDNAAK AZAAB HAI"

SURAH-E-NAHEL VERSE #11616;

"AUR YOONHI JHOOT JO TUMHARI ZUBAAN PER AA JAY MAT KEH DIYA KAROOK YEH HALAL HAI AUR YEH HARAAM HAI K ALLAH PER JHOOT BOHTAAN BANDHNAY LAGOO. JO LOG ALLAH PER JHOOT BOHTAAN BANDHTAY HAIN WOH KAMYAAB NA HONGAY"

so, i think u got the point ...koi bhi jan boojh ker aisa ghinaoona jurum nahi karay ga sirf chand min ki appreciation k liyay....mind it n one thing more think brfore speak....
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Humaira read your reply in response to smurfyazhar post, hopefully you'll get answer of your Question "what's this[?][?]". no hard feeling plz
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how much u people r na ....main nay ans smurfyazar ko nahi musman ko diya tha....baat ko kaisay ghumatay hain aa log..[0]

ausmanpk2001 · 05-13-2006, 12:07 AM

Humaira. this is reidiculous. The Holy Book Quran is not a Pic of a painter. Its the book from Allah to all the people on this earth takay woh hadayat payen. ITs not a book which verse you can invent for amusement purposes.

Your so called statement based on false information MIGHT be interesting. but it doesn't means that you can "invent" verses form the quran to make your so called falsified statement interesting but actually you have lost your credibility & your worth on this forum & the fun of you statemtn id wasted too.

Looks like you are not Muslim but maybe hindu or jewish because a Muslim cannot even think of doing what you have done & you are defending it too! You can't be a Muslim. NO way.

GO POST THAT STUFF ON SOME JEWISH OR HINDU WEBSITE BECAZ THATS THE PLACE WHERE YOU WILL GET APPRECIATION ON INVENTING FLASE QURANIC VERSES. IF YOU WANT APPRECIATION ON YOUR FAZOOL INVENTION SKILLS, THEN NO MUSLIM CAN DO THIS...

sajjad_dar2000 · 05-13-2006, 12:55 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ausmanpk2001
 Humaira. this is reidiculous. The Holy Book Quran is not a Pic of a painter. Its the book from Allah to all the people on this earth takay woh hadayat payen. ITs not a book which verse you can invent for amusement purposes.

Your so called statement based on false information MIGHT be interesting. but it doesn't means that you can "invent" verses form the quran to make your so called falsified statement interesting but actually you have lost your credibility & your worth on this forum & the fun of you statemtn id wasted too.

Looks like you are not Muslim but maybe hindu or jewish because a Muslim cannot even think of doing what you have done & you are defending it too! You can't be a Muslim. NO way.

GO POST THAT STUFF ON SOME JEWISH OR HINDU WEBSITE BECAZ THATS THE PLACE WHERE YOU WILL GET APPRECIATION ON INVENTING FLASE QURANIC VERSES. IF YOU WANT APPRECIATION ON YOUR FAZOOL INVENTION SKILLS, THEN NO MUSLIM CAN DO THIS...
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OoooOOopsssssss.....Usman YAr????

I think humaira didnât put her post deliberately instead she creates the threat without verifying the fact. I think her knowledge about Islam is poor thatâs why she didnât realise what she is going to post. When I read the so called Quranic verse posted by Humaira, without reading the Quran I was able to say that concern verse is not from Holly Quran. Because it donât seems to be from Holly Quran and it was against the teaching of Quran/islam.

In 9/11 attack thousands of innocent men, women and children died and Quran forbids the killing of innocent human being regardless of colour, religion etc. Consider following verse from Holly Quran.

[1733] Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand retaliation or to forgive) but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life, for he is helped (by the Law)

[452257] Narrated 'Abdullah During some of the Ghazawat of the Prophet a woman was found killed. Allah's Apostle disapproved the killing of women and children.

I believe Humaira has realized her mistake and that enough, waisay be insaan khata ka putla hota haiâ¦

Azeem Shah Khan · 05-13-2006, 02:37 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ausmanpk2001
 Humaira. this is reidiculous. The Holy Book Quran is not a Pic of a painter. Its the book from Allah to all the people on this earth takay woh hadayat payen. ITs not a book which verse you can invent for amusement purposes.

Your so called statement based on false information MIGHT be interesting. but it doesn't means that you can "invent" verses form the quran to make your so called falsified statement interesting but actually you have lost your credibility & your worth on this forum & the fun of you statemtn id wasted too.

Looks like you are not Muslim but maybe hindu or jewish because a Muslim cannot even think of doing what you have done & you are defending it too! You can't be a Muslim. NO way.

GO POST THAT STUFF ON SOME JEWISH OR HINDU WEBSITE BECAZ THATS THE PLACE WHERE YOU WILL GET APPRECIATION ON INVENTING FLASE QURANIC VERSES. IF YOU WANT APPRECIATION ON YOUR FAZOOL INVENTION SKILLS, THEN NO MUSLIM CAN DO THIS...
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Please dont get too excited. She has accepted her mistake and edited the post. Please dont try to be mufti imposing your fatwas, that was a genuine mistake which she made unpurposely, now dont give it a different shade.

Kind regards

Humaira · 05-13-2006, 10:40 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ausmanpk2001
 Looks like you are not Muslim but maybe hindu or jewish because a Muslim cannot even think of doing what you have done & you are defending it too! You can't be a Muslim. NO way.

GO POST THAT STUFF ON SOME JEWISH OR HINDU WEBSITE BECAZ THATS THE PLACE WHERE YOU WILL GET APPRECIATION ON INVENTING FLASE QURANIC VERSES. IF YOU WANT APPRECIATION ON YOUR FAZOOL INVENTION SKILLS, THEN NO MUSLIM CAN DO THIS...
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sorry if i say any harsh words.....

Mr. usman mera kahayal hai aap kafi late ho gay ...lakin yeh k main Muslim hoon bhi ya nahi yeh aap ka nahi balkay mera masla hai...aur waisay bhi aap bhool rahay hain k koi bhi kissi k imman ka mayaar nahi jan sakta ....insaan apnay imaan ka mayaar nahi janta yeh to phir ...kahir ....haan galti yeh hui k bus upper wala stuff perha acha laga to paste ker diya ...puraa perha hi nahi tha ...lakin in uncles nay jitna iss baat ko gaseeta in ka bohat shukria.....

so sirf last main ek baat
think before speak...kahin aap ka koi word kissi ko hurt to nahi ker raha.....

sorry if any word of mine hurt u.....but thanks for ur warm participation....

Humaira · 05-13-2006, 10:51 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ausmanpk2001
 Humaira. this is reidiculous. The Holy Book Quran is not a Pic of a painter. Its the book from Allah to all the people on this earth takay woh hadayat payen. ITs not a book which verse you can invent for amusement purposes.

Your so called statement based on false information MIGHT be interesting. but it doesn't means that you can "invent" verses form the quran to make your so called falsified statement interesting but actually you have lost your credibility & your worth on this forum & the fun of you statemtn id wasted too.

Looks like you are not Muslim but maybe hindu or jewish because a Muslim cannot even think of doing what you have done & you are defending it too! You can't be a Muslim. NO way.

GO POST THAT STUFF ON SOME JEWISH OR HINDU WEBSITE BECAZ THATS THE PLACE WHERE YOU WILL GET APPRECIATION ON INVENTING FLASE QURANIC VERSES. IF YOU WANT APPRECIATION ON YOUR FAZOOL INVENTION SKILLS, THEN NO MUSLIM CAN DO THIS...
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thansk uncles ...aur Usman sb. woh painter Allah talah nahi balkay main thi aur woh creation jiss ko khaincha gaya woh topic tha ...so plz donot create confusion again ok.....thatnks
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Muhammad Ahmad · 05-13-2006, 11:54 PM

I think this topic Should be closed now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks

Pracs · 05-14-2006, 09:02 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Humaira
 <blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ausmanpk2001
 Looks like you are not Muslim but maybe hindu or jewish because a Muslim cannot even think of doing what you have done & you are defending it too! You can't be a Muslim. NO way.

GO POST THAT STUFF ON SOME JEWISH OR HINDU WEBSITE BECAZ THATS THE PLACE WHERE YOU WILL GET APPRECIATION ON INVENTING FLASE QURANIC VERSES. IF YOU WANT APPRECIATION ON YOUR FAZOOL INVENTION SKILLS, THEN NO MUSLIM CAN DO THIS...
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sorry if i say any harsh words.....

Mr. usman mera kahayal hai aap kafi late ho gay ...lakin yeh k main Muslim hoon bhi ya nahi yeh aap ka nahi balkay mera masla hai...aur waisay bhi aap bhool rahay hain k koi bhi kissi k imman ka mayaar nahi jan sakta ....insaan apnay imaan ka mayaar nahi janta yeh to phir ...kahir ....haan galti yeh hui k bus upper wala stuff perha acha laga to paste ker diya ...puraa perha hi nahi tha ...lakin in uncles nay jitna iss baat ko gaseeta in ka bohat shukria.....

so sirf last main ek baat
think before speak...kahin aap ka koi word kissi ko hurt to nahi ker raha.....

sorry if any word of mine hurt u.....but thanks for ur warm participation....

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Humaira nobody has 'ghaseeta' any thing here,.. I think you have not appreciated the enormity of the consequences of some thing like that. You have realised that you made a mistake by not reading the whole through and through but you still think that all us 'uncles'were simply doing it for the fun of it.

ausmanpk2001 · 05-14-2006, 11:08 PM

Its ok.

Humaira · 05-15-2006, 01:57 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Muhammad Ahmad
 I think this topic Should be closed now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks
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so no coments...[)]

sajjad_dar2000 · 05-15-2006, 03:14 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Humaira
 <blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Muhammad Ahmad
 I think this topic Should be closed now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks
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so no coments...[)]
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No problem Humaira, you can put your stupid posts as long as I am here. I love to read your stupid posts because I like stupid girls.

[D][D]

Regards
Sajjad

Humaira · 05-15-2006, 02:00 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sajjad_dar2000
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No problem Humaira, you can put your stupid posts as long as I am here. I love to read your stupid posts because I like stupid girls.

[D][D]

Regards
Sajjad
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yes i am stupid Mr. sajjad becoz hamari sooch limited hai...hum batoon ko ussi andaz main daikhtay hain jaisay k biyaan kernay walay nay biyaan ki hoon ..baatoon ko jiss rukh say aap log daikhtay hain woh to main nay yahan aa ker daikha hai.....

aur jahan tak age ka sawal hai to woh to baray burhay kehtay hain aqal say hoti hai ummer say nahi....