Confusion CAT + ACCA + CA (ICAP)

Hawk24 · 07-31-2009, 02:53 AM

And one more question, How many modules for an ACCA are exempted if he wants to do CA? and Does an ACCA need to pass some exams if he wants to claim exemptions from those modules what is the procedure?

shashan · 08-01-2009, 12:41 AM

Well i have the same problem and this thread help me a lot.Now i am a cat studnt and studying t1,t2,t5

sohaib chohan · 08-02-2009, 04:01 PM

salam... LET ME KNOW THE BEST INSTITUTES FOR ACCA IN PAKISTAN AND in U.K. DOING ACCA FROM PAKISTAN OR ABROAD WOULD BE OF SAME WORTH??
regards to all

sohaib chohan · 08-03-2009, 08:50 PM

odyssee and rabia-k please reply
salam... LET ME KNOW THE BEST INSTITUTES FOR ACCA IN PAKISTAN AND in U.K. DOING ACCA FROM PAKISTAN OR ABROAD WOULD BE OF SAME WORTH??
regards to all

rabia-k · 08-03-2009, 09:15 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sohaib chohan
 odyssee and rabia-k please reply
salam... LET ME KNOW THE BEST INSTITUTES FOR ACCA IN PAKISTAN AND in U.K. DOING ACCA FROM PAKISTAN OR ABROAD WOULD BE OF SAME WORTH??
regards to all
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i am not studying in Pakistan so cant say anything about the institutes there. in UAE phoenix FT Dubai (kaplan) is the best.

Odyssee · 08-03-2009, 09:18 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sohaib chohan
 odyssee and rabia-k please reply
salam... LET ME KNOW THE BEST INSTITUTES FOR ACCA IN PAKISTAN AND in U.K. DOING ACCA FROM PAKISTAN OR ABROAD WOULD BE OF SAME WORTH??
regards to all
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w/s
my knowledge of ACCA institutes in Pakistan is limited to Karachi city.

the best institutes in Karachi are
CAMS
Al-Hamd Academy
NCA
Abeel School of Accountancy
Tabanis School of Accountancy
School of Business Studies
CMS

You can study from different institutes at the same time e.g u can study F7 from NCA and F8 from CAMS at the same time.
Choose only that institute which has the best teacher for a specific subject. To view my list of best teachers in Karachi, visit the following thread
http//www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=7240

In UK, most students prefer to study from FTC Kaplan.http//financial.kaplan.co.uk/trainingandquals/accountancy/acca/pages/default.aspx
Other renowned institutes are
BPP http//www.bpp.com/acca/
London College of Accountancy http//www.londoncollege.org.uk/
London School of Business and Finance http//www.lsbf.org.uk/programmes/professional/acca.html

There is no difference between the ACCA certification, whether u choose to study from UK or Pakistan.

sohaib chohan · 08-03-2009, 09:37 PM

thank you odyssee, so nice of u!!
can u also tell which one is better after acca, CA or ICAEW. AND ALSO LET ME NOW EXEMPTION OF BOTH AFTER ACCA..

sohaib chohan · 08-03-2009, 09:43 PM

ODYSSEE SIR I LIVE IN ISLAMABAD. SO TELL ABOUT THE INSTITUTES OF PINDI AND ISLAMABAD..

Odyssee · 08-03-2009, 09:55 PM

Exemptions in ICAP
After clearing ACCA, Module A-D of CA-ICAP will be exempt. You will have to attempt Module E and F (a total of 8 papers).

Exemptions in ICAEW
If u have cleared your ACCA with passes in paper P6 and P7,then the Professional Stage of ACA-ICAEW will be completely exempt. You will only need to attempt all the 3 papers of the Advanced Stage.
You can view the syllabus of ACA on the following link
http//www.bpp.com/aca/about/syllabus.asp

Regarding which is better, CA or ACA?
I asked a similar question from a senior member of this forum (kamranACA) and his reply was and i quote

Dear,

ACCA is good qualification if we look at its academic side, its subjects, study material, contents, and so on. This can polish the abilities of a genius but can't help every one with same intensity. There is lot more which needs to be reviewed which in my personal opinion (that's not binding on any one else) has been ignored. I discussed it with representatives of Pak chapter and they acknolwdged what I said is in fact notable and workable. However, neither they have to compulsorily act upon my humble suggestions nor I am so much concerned to keep on debating with them. Leaving a few rare cases which I know you are aware of, ACCAs are not well accepted at Pakistan and in fact flow out in loads every year. This creates frustration for lot more people who went out with an intent of returning gracefully to the homeland. The intent which never comes true because they know what they will be offered here. You must have witnessed cases of such frustration.

This was not what you asked but lays the foundation of what I want to reply.

In fact no qualification is that bad if we discuss it simply with reference to the academic issues. Professionaly speaking we can find differences. This is what one needs to concentrate on.

ICAEW has a history of larger acceptance at sub continent as well as so many parts of the world. It's respected for its quality undoubtedly. This has nothing to do with poor people's creation of master slave issues or revenue race or number game etc. Had it been the case ACCA should have been respected professionally in same fashion which unfortunately is not the case irrespective of lots of MRAs. If one can understand he may be knowing that like academic contents, MRAs can also not enhance acceptance in some designation's originality. Yes MRAs provide a base to penetrate if the subject qualification is factually upto it. So again undoubtedly it is solely based upon the grace, priviliges and honor which ICAEW carries for its quality over the decades and decades. It's no master slave issue.

ICAP has a greater relevance to the people who want to settle down at Pakistan or eventually at Pakistan although its members are working around the globe. It carrys independent identity and backing by Goverment, public and private sectors being localized charterholder, advisor and part of policy making exercizes at some fronts or in some facets.

ICAP did not make that level of efforts for MRAs etc in past since there was huge demand supply imbalance for its members thereby providing handsome returns locally as well as internationally.

However, now as a step forward to do the needful in changed globalized scenario it has recently started efforts for MRAs and MOU with ICAEW is the first such step. The people commenting on the step are theirself the most rejected and frustrated one. Their condition does not make them to understand this process. Essense is, end of times has not come and we have to witness a lot more in coming days on positive pole. An international qualification may come forth which can change the whole scene. I don't go into details before time.

In Pak ICAEW is fully recognised for membership of ICAP but this membership carries restricted rights. For getting into public practice they have to pass certain papers of ICAP. Without this they could be good only for industry and not for profession. Terms to be taken in general sense.

So summing up this whole write up, I feel ICAEW's CA will be a good option for ACCAs because they will get ICAP's membership as well. However two things can affect this decision. Firstly, since end of times has not come, if ICAP will restrict its membership to those ICAEW members who do not carry such designation on the basis of ACCA (or CIMA) then it will not be good. I personally will suggest ICAP's council members to take such decision since it also follows same rule. Let's see what they feel appropriate.

Secondly, even if ICAEW members who got such designation on the basis of ACCA are given ICAP's membership, they will not be allowed to start or join any public practice.

Keeping this in mind you can take your own decision.

Let me know if you require some input.

Regards,

Kamran.


http//www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7654&whichpage=1

Odyssee · 08-04-2009, 01:23 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sohaib chohan
 ODYSSEE SIR I LIVE IN ISLAMABAD. SO TELL ABOUT THE INSTITUTES OF PINDI AND ISLAMABAD..
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Since i am from Karachi, i do not have any knowledge of the institutes in Islamabad. Only ACCA students and affiliates from Islamabad will be able to guide you on this matter.

sohaib chohan · 08-04-2009, 08:23 PM

@odyssee
thank you so much sir..may ALLAH bless you

rabia-k · 08-04-2009, 08:49 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sohaib chohan
 ODYSSEE SIR I LIVE IN ISLAMABAD. SO TELL ABOUT THE INSTITUTES OF PINDI AND ISLAMABAD..
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Hi Shoaib,
here is a link to the ACCA tuition provider directory (bottom of page) you will find all the approved ACCA tuition providers here, in every country where the ACCA qualification is being offered.

http//www.accaglobal.com/students/study/search

sohaib chohan · 08-05-2009, 06:22 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rabia-k
 <blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sohaib chohan
 ODYSSEE SIR I LIVE IN ISLAMABAD. SO TELL ABOUT THE INSTITUTES OF PINDI AND ISLAMABAD..
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Hi Shoaib,
here is a link to the ACCA tuition provider directory (bottom of page) you will find all the approved ACCA tuition providers here,

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thanku rabia-k