ICAEW Training Office

[mroneflower]

Hi

Your company name (Techno Beavers) is there in ICAEW list of training vacancies.

The criteria you have mentrioned is too much tought and i dont think anyone who is ACCA qualified or ICAP memeber will go for this route.

For example ppl like me(I am ACCA qualified) will never go for ICAEW becuase firstly in training contract I will not be paid enough espically in Pakistan ( About 4000 rupees). Secondly ACCA with five yrs of experience can apply for ICAEW memebership straight away through CCAB route.

One more thing ICAEW is not conduting her exams in pakistan, so person doing training in lahore has to come to UK to take exams.

Kind Regards

Khalid Sipra, M.A, ACCA

[mroneflower]

and who will pay tutition fee including books, ICAEW ecaminations, exemption and admission fee. Note that ICAEW registration fee is about £500.

how much salary you will pay to ACA trainee. I guess it must be at least 20,000 to 30,000 pak Rs, as u r looking for ICAP member or ACCA affiliates.

Who will pay for air fare as students will have to fly to Uk to take exams.

Please answer the questions.

Khalid Sipra

[mroneflower]

Hi

By asking ICAP members for the position of acticle clerk leading to examinations of ICAEW, You are infact saying that ICAP is much lower than ICAEW even in Pakistan.

I must tell you that no qualification of the world can compete with ICAP in Pakistan. I meant to say that no foreign qualification can compete with any country home qualification in that country.

So plaese think carefully before posting anything.

Regards

Khalid

[send2mjk]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by mroneflower</i>
<br />Hi

Your company name (Techno Beavers) is there in ICAEW list of training vacancies.

The criteria you have mentrioned is too much tought and i dont think anyone who is ACCA qualified or ICAP memeber will go for this route.

For example ppl like me(I am ACCA qualified) will never go for ICAEW becuase firstly in training contract I will not be paid enough espically in Pakistan ( About 4000 rupees). Secondly ACCA with five yrs of experience can apply for ICAEW memebership straight away through CCAB route.

One more thing ICAEW is not conduting her exams in pakistan, so person doing training in lahore has to come to UK to take exams.

Kind Regards

Khalid Sipra, M.A, ACCA
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Dear Khalid,

<font color="orange">“The criteria you have mentrioned is too much tought and i dont think anyone who is ACCA qualified or ICAP memeber will go for this route.”</font id="orange">

<b>The kind of response that we are receiving, I beg to disagree.</b>


<font color="orange">“For example ppl like me(I am ACCA qualified) will never go for ICAEW becuase firstly in training contract I will not be paid enough espically in Pakistan ( About 4000 rupees). Secondly ACCA with five yrs of experience can apply for ICAEW memebership straight away through CCAB route.”</font id="orange">

<b>Our salary scale is a bit different as far as normal accountancy practices in Pakistan are concerned and exact details depend upon the candidate’s individual capabilities.</b>


<font color="orange">“One more thing ICAEW is not conduting her exams in pakistan, so person doing training in lahore has to come to UK to take exams.”</font id="orange">

<b>Yes.</b>

Kind Regards,

[send2mjk]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by mroneflower</i>
<br />and who will pay tutition fee including books, ICAEW ecaminations, exemption and admission fee. Note that ICAEW registration fee is about £500.

how much salary you will pay to ACA trainee. I guess it must be at least 20,000 to 30,000 pak Rs, as u r looking for ICAP member or ACCA affiliates.

Who will pay for air fare as students will have to fly to Uk to take exams.

Please answer the questions.

Khalid Sipra
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We can, but it’s not a compulsion at all. And as far as salary scales is concerned I have already replied to that.

Kind Regards,

[send2mjk]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by mroneflower</i>
<br />Hi

By asking ICAP members for the position of acticle clerk leading to examinations of ICAEW, You are infact saying that ICAP is much lower than ICAEW even in Pakistan.

I must tell you that no qualification of the world can compete with ICAP in Pakistan. I meant to say that no foreign qualification can compete with any country home qualification in that country.

So plaese think carefully before posting anything.

Regards

Khalid
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No we are not and I honestly don’t want to stir a debate here. CA has his own worth and ACA has its own. There is a lot of common among the two. In other words I would like to describe it as different Engineering discipline where some may say this is good and some say other……

Kind Regards,

[mroneflower]

Hi send2mjk

Thanks for your reply. I agree with you that we should not start any debate over it.

U mentioned a lot of ICAP members have applied for training contract leading to examination of ICAEW. If it is ture then I am afarid that these ppl might not value and trust their qualification. (I am not starting any debate)

I have been offered training contract, after ACCA, by a firm in Belfast leading to examinations pf Institute of Chartered Accountant in Ireland and I have decided not to go.

If ICAP members are applying, then please let me know what is going on in Pakistan nowadays.

You have not mentioned starting salary, Just give me rough idea.

Once again I am not starting any debate, I am just shocked over ICAP members behaviour.

Kind Regards

Khalid Sipra

[hanifasif]

Yeah, I agree with you Khalid, if ICAP members are going for ICAEW training then it’s really worrying. The logical explanation that comes to my mind is that these might be those members who want to settle abroad, and you know ACA (ICAEW) is supreme qualification abroad just the way ICAP’s in Pak.

[mroneflower]

Hi hanifasif

I do not agree that ICAEW is considered supreme qualification abroad. Yes in Pakistan ACA from (ICAEW) is considered more supreme and in Pakistan ppl think that ICAEW is also supreme oversea.

I am sure you will agree with me.

Regards

Khalid

[Pracs]

Internationally, these days all it matters is if you are a 'qualified accountant' and have the requisite experience and ICAP is one of such institutes

[mroneflower]

yes I agree with Pracs. I just want to know y ICAP members r dying to be trained as ACA (ICAEW) and y they are applying for ICAEW training.

Regards

Khalid

[rabia-k]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by mroneflower</i>
<br />Hi

Your company name (Techno Beavers) is there in ICAEW list of training vacancies.

The criteria you have mentrioned is too much tought and i dont think anyone who is ACCA qualified or ICAP memeber will go for this route.

For example ppl like me(I am ACCA qualified) will never go for ICAEW becuase firstly in training contract I will not be paid enough espically in Pakistan ( About 4000 rupees). Secondly ACCA with five yrs of experience can apply for ICAEW memebership straight away through CCAB route.

One more thing ICAEW is not conduting her exams in pakistan, so person doing training in lahore has to come to UK to take exams.

Kind Regards

Khalid Sipra, <font color="red"><b>M.A, ACCA</b></font id="red">
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[admin]

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[kamranACA]

Rabia,

If you have some purpose of copying such posts (which I understand), please mention it after making quotation so that reader may understand the objective.

Admin,

We are really thankful for your continuous mintoring and interaction. To my apprehension it was merely to highlight the bluff of a person made publically (using this forum). I also understand that morally you are not obliged to consider what I/we may explain in connection with the posts of others. However, I considered appropriate to post my viewpoint.

I have also requested to take action against ficticiously mentioning of such designations. I mean it is totally your prerogative but we should post our requests to you which we may consider warranted. I hope you will not mind. Regrets for botheration.

Best regards,


KAMRAN.

[rabia-k]

my intention was to highlight that the designatory letters ACCA (which one can use upon becoming an ACCA member) is being used with a fake name.