Emergency Imposed by a Dictator

Astute Accountant · 11-21-2007, 03:21 PM

I'll translate it. Don't you worry. I just want to know which sentances need to be translated for you and in which language would you prefer, Urdu or English?

Muhammad Amir · 11-21-2007, 09:06 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">You know MOM says that the accountants at this froum argue in such a way jewaiin inhann de murabay sanjhe ne......<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Sorry for being late. rora iss hajat nishta da sorry wailo. Khu bia bia source ba na tapoos kay. Hairat de che ta da swat a ao asal karunoo na khabar naee.

Khu bas pray da. Ee ba.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

These two...in Urdu or in English...whichever you feel good

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Very good Amir Bhai...... Apni umer ka estimate lagane k baad mujhe UNCLE kehte P D<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Exactly! in some recent thread you yourself told us that average age of CIMAs are 35....so I am still 21 therefore i can call you as uncle...

Hope this cleares you...

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

Astute Accountant · 11-22-2007, 03:54 PM

Translation # 1

Murabay = Property = Agricultural land = 1 Murabah = 25 acer = 50 Jareeb of land = 1 Murabah

Now Murabas or Murabay = Many Murabas = Huge property
Sanje = Joint property

Illustration SANJHE MURABAY (which initially belonged to one's forefathers) are meant to be divided amongst brothers or cousins. And when it comes to its actual division, there arises some sort of conflict over the use or sale of that huge property because of the difference of thoughts and the different proposed uses of that land.

So in general routine, when there arises a situation when everyone has his own view and one stick to one's guns and continues arguments; people say that it seems that your property is joint and you people are arguing over its division.
You understand Maulana Bhai, what's meant by SANJHE MURABAY???

Translation # 2 This one is quite easy; as it's just Pashtu

Sorry for being late (remains as it is). Brother (rora) no need to say sorry. But you won't ask for the source again and again. I wonder you're from swat and are unaware of the actual happenings.

Anyway, just leave it. It's OK.

And hey Bhai, I had talked about the "average qualifying age"; I hadn't talked about the age of "students".

BTW, are you Sindhi or Balochi that you don't understand Punjabi and Pashtu etc...

israrhere · 11-22-2007, 07:39 PM

Dear Astute, na rora che pa cha bande sa khabara bada walagi no sorry wayal pakar ye kho rora sa waku sok mukhles neshti,koshish ba kawu che zan da real halato na khabraw no hu, kho yar zamung dumra zehin kumzay rasi.
By the way dear are you pukhtoon or panjabi...?

Dear sir Kamran yes your conclusion may not affect reality but it means alot for us........you are very sincere person)

Regards,

Israr

israrhere · 11-22-2007, 07:43 PM

What Imran says about about his arrestment
http//www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2007/11/071122_imran_interview.shtml

Muhammad Amir · 11-23-2007, 01:06 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">You understand Maulana Bhai<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Please Do Not Use This Great Word With Me As I Am No A Qualified Member of Any Maddersah, So This Word Is Used For People Who Spend Their 12 Years To Learn ULOOOM-E-NADWWIA...As I Am DUNYIA DAR person So Prefix of This Word With Me Is The "BE HURMATIE" Of This Word...
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And hey Bhai, I had talked about the "average qualifying age"; I hadn't talked about the age of "students".<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

It means you are still a Student...

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">BTW, are you Sindhi or Balochi that you don't understand Punjabi and Pashtu etc...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I Am Urdu Speaking(as advertised by MQMians as Muhajir[but neither i am nor my parents are Muhajir, my Grand Father and Mother were]), I do not believe in QUOM PARASTI/PASANDI and I say every Muslim person as my brother whether these are Pthans/Pujabies/Balochies/Sindhies these all are my mislim brothers and i have equal respect of all of them and i hate people who talk about Quom Parasti like MQM/ANP/BNP(These all are agents of Shaitan-e-rajeem) etc...

However Allah himself says that he has divided humans in different origins and laguages so these are solely for identity purpose nothing else...

SAWAT may kia hoo raha hay muj ko bhi batain(personal message if you wish) otherwise i will brain wash people against very PAK ARMY...

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

Pracs · 11-23-2007, 08:24 AM

Nice to see things are up and running and we have had no converts.

Imran · 11-23-2007, 12:56 PM

As swat crises are concerned wahan par un logo ko khatam kia ja raha hey jo hakikat pasand hey aur khalt ko khalt karar daynay ke ahliat rakhtay hey. Agar hum ghor karay tu Mush kee policy may sab say prominent yeh bat hey k yeh un logo ko khatam kar raha hey jo us k khilaf awaz utha saktay hey. aur is ke yeh policy match karty hey bush aur anti muslims say. jo k mulims ko apna sab say bara dushman is lye samajtay hey k sahi musalman halat k sath samjota nahi karta. Jo roshan khayali ka concept mush dayta hey us k mutabil hamay halat k sath chalna chahiye yani american aur europeon soch ikhtiar karni chahiye. Waziristan, swat aur nwfp k loog khayal yeh kia jata hey k apnay eman par pukhta hey aur apnay mazhab aur akeedo par samjota nahi kartay ya phir roshan khayal nahi hey. aysay logo ko khatam kar k ya kamzor kar k mush apnay makasid asani say pura karna chahta hey. is kee aik misal lawyers baradri hey. uno nay jab kanon par samjota nahi kia tu mush nay unay khatam kar dia. Sochnay ke bat yeh hey k agar yehi hota raha aur yeh katil mush mazeed kuch arsa raha tu kia ho ga humaray mulk aur islam ka..............??????/

Imran · 11-23-2007, 02:41 PM

Aur jaha tak qomiat ka tahalak meray khayal say yeh sab bahut purani batay ho gaye hey. In my view the one having better ikhlaq should be considered instead of qom

Astute Accountant · 11-23-2007, 08:13 PM

@ Amir

Bhai, you just got infuriated for no reason at all. No offence was meant, actually (you may or may not be aware) in Turkey, when someone is give respect to the person in front of him, he calls him HAJJI. This doesn't mean that everyone who is to be respected is a HAJJI in the real sense rather it just shows respect.
Similarly, English people use Mr. so I thought you might be offended and may say that you're not a FARANGI. So I used this word instead. Hope you won't mind.

And Bhai, I myself am not a supporter of provincialism, racialism, etc etc. I just meant to know that if you don't understand these two languages, you might know (at least) one of the rest ones and may help us in understanding them.

Hope there remains nothing else to be clarified......

CHEERS!!!

Astute Accountant · 11-23-2007, 08:30 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by israrhere
 Dear Astute, na rora che pa cha bande sa khabara bada walagi no sorry wayal pakar ye kho rora sa waku sok mukhles neshti,koshish ba kawu che zan da real halato na khabraw no hu, kho yar zamung dumra zehin kumzay rasi.
By the way dear are you pukhtoon or panjabi...?

Dear sir Kamran yes your conclusion may not affect reality but it means alot for us........you are very sincere person)

Regards,

Israr
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Na rora, Ror um way oa sorry um. Sorry ba na we. Kha? Bus che sa ushu, ushu prayda.

Zehn ba rasay kana. Che kala poray ba zehn na istamalay kar ba na chaali. Poyey shu'aiy ka na??

Well rora!! What am I; Punjabi or Pukhtoon? That's a really difficult queston Because I feel I'm above all provincialism. I'm a Pakistani. I stand for Pakistan and feel proud in being called a Pakistani alone. SO............. I'm just a PAKISTANI!!!

Muhammad Amir · 11-24-2007, 04:00 AM

Imran No One Can Disagree To You...

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I'm a Pakistani. I stand for Pakistan and feel proud in being called a Pakistani alone. SO............. I'm just a PAKISTANI!!!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Thats the way and should be followed...

Astute Accountant I have never offended by any line of yours just i need to clarify that the word is atleast very respectful for me and how can i "JAHIL" be in the list if These learned Scholars so this is just to clarify nothing else...

Dear Astute you didn't tell us about the reality of sawat please tell us, if you know the correct information...

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

Astute Accountant · 11-27-2007, 03:19 AM

Bro, I have some info but I'm not yet (100%) sure about its validity so....... BTW army is using heavy artillarly etc against its own countrymen. (which I don't appreciate)

Schuaeb · 11-27-2007, 10:14 PM

I think your statement is valid as is supported by some new. Artillery, doesn't matter heavy or not, is being used by Pakistan army against Pakistani people, and this is one of the reason that Frontier Core denied to be involved in this operation. This I guess have never happened except 1971.

The important question is whether this act of military i.e. operations in Northern agencies, Balochistan and Swat are justified or not. Many of us are of the view that the our own agencies are the architect of drama created in Swat. Nothing, in my view, can be conclusively said in this regard. But if it is not the case, then what other options our forces had. I mean when the writ of the state is challenged it has to be cured, and if it is not possible by means of dialogue use of force becomes a must. I am not justifying Musharraf's policies not at all, as all this is the retaliation of his earlier steps. We fought this war against terrorism for America and now have become worse victims of it ourselves.

Schuaeb · 11-27-2007, 10:16 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Schuaeb
 I think your statement is valid as is supported by some news. Artillery, doesn't matter heavy or not, is being used by Pakistan army against Pakistani people, and this is one of the reason that Frontier Core denied to be involved in this operation. This I guess have never happened except 1971.

The important question is whether this act of military i.e. operations in Northern agencies, Balochistan and Swat are justified or not. Many of us are of the view that the our own agencies are the architect of drama created in Swat. Nothing, in my view, can be conclusively said in this regard. But if it is not the case, then what other options our forces had. I mean when the writ of the state is challenged it has to be cured, and if it is not possible by means of dialogue use of force becomes a must. I am not justifying Musharraf's policies not at all, as all this is the retaliation of his earlier steps. We fought this war against terrorism for America and now have become worse victims of it ourselves.

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