12-13-2009, 09:17 PM
i am new to this discussion and telling mr. amir that i myself very religious person additional to it i wear coat and scarf as well.BUT i was surprised to read your this post which shows that you are not cleared in thoughts and dont know much about islam as well i hope you wont behave aggressively and it will be in your interest because you want to be real muslim and have ffear of afterlife and accountability to God.
according to you
"....lot of women showing their full inside structure by wearing appealing cloths..what all this going on.......A person(Sharief)can't go to market can't attend classes if he want to attend classes he should sit in the last of row of class why just because such nude dressing of opposite sex....and this is very natural that women always attract men and this universal divine rule...so the conclusion is that if women are properly dressed and they hide themselves and their bodies then their is nothing to increase lewdness in country..."
okay brother!
I AM NOT ADVOCATING THOSE SHAMELESS WOMEN but want to add something in your islamic knowledge
Men are srictly asked not to stare ghair mahram women even if they mistakenly see some woman they
should keep thier eyes down and specially if people like you who see them so closely that they come to know all inside stucture which can not be observed mistakenly or in first sight ,should even keep their eyes down even if you have to interact with them in office or somewhere,secondly they are responsible for their acts or their mehrams and you will be accountable for your sins ,if they will not keep themselves in parda then this will not give you the plea for watching them with sinful intention ,men should control their NAFS even if some lady comes so.you can not force them to do parda and cannot punish them ,only you can do is to control your mind ,only when you will learn to resist such sinful feelings you will be a good muslim.those women do so to attract loose character people if you wont be attracted the will leave such acts.
ONE very strange point which you gave as argument is "and this is very natural that women always attract men and this universal divine rule...so the conclusion is that if women are properly dressed and they hide themselves and their bodies then their is nothing to increase lewdness in country."
you said it is natural that women attracts men,brother this is all state of mind which can be controlled this baseless argument wont save you on day of judgement that women didnt hide theirslves so we couldnt resist,and many people like you say women attracts if it is universal truth then why men dont get attracted to their mothers or sisters even if they dont cover themselve completely?if you would say they are mahram then i would say
for example a lady in your class room who attracted you and latter on you come to know she is your real sister,so its all state of mind we have same you take as vice versa ,i.e the lady you think is your sister you dont do parda in front of you because you are her brother,you come to know your parents adopted her and she is not your siter
SO the conclusion is women dont attart it is you controlless nafs ,you can not force them or punish them to do parda it is their will.
hope you wont take it aggresively and try to get some more detail knowldege from the translation of quran and will try to improve yours and others concepts.
i do parda willingly brother and know much about islam
according to you
"....lot of women showing their full inside structure by wearing appealing cloths..what all this going on.......A person(Sharief)can't go to market can't attend classes if he want to attend classes he should sit in the last of row of class why just because such nude dressing of opposite sex....and this is very natural that women always attract men and this universal divine rule...so the conclusion is that if women are properly dressed and they hide themselves and their bodies then their is nothing to increase lewdness in country..."
okay brother!
I AM NOT ADVOCATING THOSE SHAMELESS WOMEN but want to add something in your islamic knowledge
Men are srictly asked not to stare ghair mahram women even if they mistakenly see some woman they
should keep thier eyes down and specially if people like you who see them so closely that they come to know all inside stucture which can not be observed mistakenly or in first sight ,should even keep their eyes down even if you have to interact with them in office or somewhere,secondly they are responsible for their acts or their mehrams and you will be accountable for your sins ,if they will not keep themselves in parda then this will not give you the plea for watching them with sinful intention ,men should control their NAFS even if some lady comes so.you can not force them to do parda and cannot punish them ,only you can do is to control your mind ,only when you will learn to resist such sinful feelings you will be a good muslim.those women do so to attract loose character people if you wont be attracted the will leave such acts.
ONE very strange point which you gave as argument is "and this is very natural that women always attract men and this universal divine rule...so the conclusion is that if women are properly dressed and they hide themselves and their bodies then their is nothing to increase lewdness in country."
you said it is natural that women attracts men,brother this is all state of mind which can be controlled this baseless argument wont save you on day of judgement that women didnt hide theirslves so we couldnt resist,and many people like you say women attracts if it is universal truth then why men dont get attracted to their mothers or sisters even if they dont cover themselve completely?if you would say they are mahram then i would say
for example a lady in your class room who attracted you and latter on you come to know she is your real sister,so its all state of mind we have same you take as vice versa ,i.e the lady you think is your sister you dont do parda in front of you because you are her brother,you come to know your parents adopted her and she is not your siter
SO the conclusion is women dont attart it is you controlless nafs ,you can not force them or punish them to do parda it is their will.
hope you wont take it aggresively and try to get some more detail knowldege from the translation of quran and will try to improve yours and others concepts.
i do parda willingly brother and know much about islam