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farazthegreat · 12-09-2004, 04:11 AM

Most schools in Pakistan are co-ed, but there are a few that aren't.

There is also another education system here besides our own, the "Cambridge System". That's where all the cool people go <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.
Basically they prepare you for the GCE O and A Level exams of the Cambridge University. But these schools are usually expensive so not everybody can go there, still it's getting more and more popular everyday.

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Apocalypse · 12-09-2004, 07:06 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>YES DEAR, Ofcourse pakistan is Muslim country . And ur quiries about Alcohol that whether it is allowed in pak or not.? Answer is that Alcoholic drinks are not allowed here and is purely illegal to sale or drink in an open evironment. I mean to say that WINE( Alcoholic bewerage)is available in black market mostly, but ppl may not overcome to this situation due to BRIBES (bhatta),CORRUPTIONS,BUREAUCRATES & some WHITE COLORS.But sale or drinking of Alcohol is illegal activity in pakistan.

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Somehow someway i missed your post...........but here goes the reply

alcohol sale is LEGAL in pakistan, if they have the liscence, the terms for liscense are...

1.Owner of the alcohol outlet is non muslim

2.Purchasers are non muslim.

3.the outlet shall remain closed in ramzan

There is a sharaab shop near my house, and looking at its sale sometimes i wish to run the same business(toba toba).

Many people go to that shop and most of them are muslims, sometimes i see boys of age 16-19 going there, but mostly men with landcruisers and corollas(Se Saloon), Civic.. are the regular visitors, once i saw a girl not more that 23 there!

So in this age it is totally upto you, if you have enough iman left in yourself, only then you may die as a perfect muslim

Apocalypse · 12-09-2004, 07:36 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> There is also another education system here besides our own, the "Cambridge System". That's where all the cool people go .<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>A small mistake, actually it is Cool Boys and Hot Girls, so the average temperature of the environment always remains neutralised, thanks to the administrative staff

Asif_ghat · 12-09-2004, 05:50 PM

ASA everybody,
Here in india there aint any 'cool' systems of education.. there's only one system and everybody learns almost the same subject.. of course there are supposedly 'cool' schools where the same stuff is taught at an expensive price!!

Another thing i wanted to know bout pak is are there any cinema halls? or do ppl hafta watch their fav movies at home? if there are cinema halls then do bollywood movies release there? cuz some of the movies we see have an anti-pak feel to it.. do u guys get to watch these movies too!
keep me posted..
till then,
allah hafiz,
Asif Ghatala

You can if u think u can!

Asif_ghat · 12-09-2004, 08:32 PM

hello all.. and one more thing i'd like to add to my last post.. is there a film industry in pak? why 's bollywood so popular there..

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jbladeus · 12-09-2004, 11:24 PM

Got your point regarding the name change. But then that raises another question. If indians care so much about their roots, then why dont they also change their national language which if i am not mistaken, is currently english? Same is the case with the name "India" itself, which i believe is a westernised term for Hind.

As for our educational system, let me correct my fellow pakistanis on this board. There are two basic systems in pakistan, private and public, as is the case in nearly every country of the world. Like other developing countries, all Pakistani governments have stuggled to balance the budget allocation between education and other sectors. IMO there's also a lack of vision and realisation among our leaders that education is the cure for all our ails.

In this scenario, private sector has taken over to fill the gap created by the public education system in most of the urban areas of pakistan and now is the preferred option of education.

With regards to movies... ofcourse we have cinemas. Where do u think we live? Afghanistan?!! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> Its just that we deceided to kill our film industry with our own hands during the late 70s and early 80s, by either hounding all the quality filmmakers out of the country or forcing them into retirement. The chaff remaining were only interested in making substandard, full of violence and titilating flicks meant for the uneducated masses, sort of like your Telugu cinema.

Personally speaking, i aint too interested in indian cinema and absolutely dislike the way pakistan is portrayed in them, which is as far from reality as possible, although must admit there are ppl here who watch a bollywood movie everynight before going to bed.

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smraza · 12-10-2004, 06:51 PM

Asif Ghatala Sb. Salam o alaikum,
Nice to see you on board,
The education system in Pakistan is very well explained by other members, but I would like to add that it is not different from the education system prevailing in India in major.
Let me give you a brief overview
There are various education systems in Pakistan which mainly depends upon your pocket, but i ll mainly focus the Middle class Education system, as I belong from a middle class family.
First of all a Kid will pass through the stages of KG1 and KG2 etc. (2 years before going to Class 1.)
Up to class 8, the courses for all the students are same, after class 8 you have the option to choose Commerce, Science or Arts Education up to matric.
After matriculation you have to pass Intermediate, Bachelors, and Masters in your respective fields.

In Intermediate the Science Students may opt for Pre-medical to become doctors or Pre-engineering to become engineers.

In Pakistan Specialization starts from both Intermediate and Bachelors Levels.

Like you can do your B.E. Engineering after Intermediate (Pre-Eng.), or MBBS after Inter (Pre-Med.)

In Pakistan the Co-Education system is not so common as far as the colleges are concerned, but in Universities the girls and boys study together.

Now coming to the Film industry, the Bollywood is very famous in Pakistan bcaz the Bollywood Movies are the result of inspiration from Hollywood, and Lollywood Movies are prepared by sense of inspiration from Bollywood.
Due to above reason, the people who watch Hollywood movies dont like bollywood moviews,
and People liking bollywood movies consider lollywood movie crap.
Indian Movie's songs are very much popular in Pakistan.
You can guess the popularity of indian movies in pakistan that almost every Kid is aware of the Shahrukh Khan, Sanjay Dutt, Aishwariya etc.

SMR

Asif_ghat · 12-10-2004, 06:54 PM

ASA guybrush,
well that's for the descriptive response to my queries.. talking buot the official language.. it gets very difficult to choose one language over the other.. the most popular lang in north india is hindi, but hardly anybody knows hindi in the southern parts.. other than hindi there's no other lang which ppl of more than one state know.. so the only possible indian lang to replace eng cud be hindi but the there are so strong anti-hindi sentiments in south india that the option of hindi becoming the official lang becomes unfeasable!!
so guess sticking to eng's the best option we have..

well bout the pak films.. dont blame me for thinking that way bout ur country.. cuz i've never heard of a single pak film and even this pakistani forum discusses only indian movies!! well glad to know there are pak films too.. hey by the way not all films show pak in bad light.. there are a few which bear a very neutral stand.. have u seen veer-zarra.. thought it didnt have any anti-pak sentiment!! well atleast that's wat i thought after seeing it.. wud like to know ur point of view too.. newayz howz india depicting generally in pak films? wud like to know..
that's it for now.. be back with more..
allah hafiz,
asif

You can if u think u can!

Asif_ghat · 12-10-2004, 07:04 PM

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Asif Ghatala Sb. Salam o alaikum,
Nice to see you on board,
The education system in Pakistan is very well explained by other members, but I would like to add that it is not different from the education system prevailing in India in major.

Now coming to the Film industry, the Bollywood is very famous in Pakistan bcaz the Bollywood Movies are the result of inspiration from Hollywood, and Lollywood Movies are prepared by sense of inspiration from Bollywood.
Due to above reason, the people who watch Hollywood movies dont like bollywood moviews,
and People liking bollywood movies consider lollywood movie crap.
Indian Movie's songs are very much popular in Pakistan.
You can guess the popularity of indian movies in pakistan that almost every Kid is aware of the Shahrukh Khan, Sanjay Dutt, Aishwariya etc.

SMR
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ASA Raza bhai,
to begin with i'm just 21 so u dont hafta call me asif sb!! sirf asif chalega<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
thanx for explainin the education system in detail.. well in india it's pretty much the same.. but the preferences of students from various parts of india is very different.. ur friends from the US will be tell u the american software industry is flooded with south indian engineers.. every south indian state produces engineers in thousands each year.. however up north the students prefer commerce and arts!!

by the way lollywood's a new term i jus learnt didnt know lollywood was the pak film industry... nwayz.. do keep posting.. wud love to hear anything any of u hafta say bout pakistan..
allah hafiz,
asif

You can if u think u can!

Goodman · 12-10-2004, 09:44 PM

Education
Indian education system has grown out of its own economic requirements and world demand of its graduates. Though Pakistani professionals competed well in the international markets but I would attribute any success to individuals own efforts rather than the product of state planning. Why state planning didnât work in our country is another question.

Films
Reading the factual history, one could see that around 1960 the film industry of Pakistan exerted enormous pressure on the Government to announce a national film policy but our Selected leaders were busy infighting. There were no democratic institutions which could provide a platform for elected members to raise issues in the Assembly so no was action taken. The second effort was launched after 1975 but Amir-ul-momineen Huzrat Zia ul Haque was busy moving the country to the so-called Islamic mode. What was the Islamic mode even Zia did not know himself.
The net effect of this neglect led to the downfall of national film industry (urdu movies) and the vacuum was filed by the regional movies, so loads of good punjabi movies came out in punjab. Unfortunately punjabi movies or pashto movies cant compete internationally. Indians adopted a unified national film policy and there industry grew, this coupled with the fact that they have bigger audience numbers provided the much needed profitability. However, there has been some good efforts from Pakistan but again on individual level, the most recent one being from Javaid Shaikh.

Asif_ghat · 12-11-2004, 11:29 PM

hey ppl.. i wud like to know wat are the other common interests, pakistanis have besides cricket and movies... anyone interested can post their replies..
and also are there any discos and pubs there? if not where do u guys party??

You can if u think u can!

Apocalypse · 12-12-2004, 07:46 AM

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hey ppl.. i wud like to know wat are the other common interests, pakistanis have besides cricket and movies... anyone interested can post their replies..
and also are there any discos and pubs there? if not where do u guys party??

You can if u think u can!
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Surely you dont party in discos and pubs, then my question is that where do you party

Goodman · 12-13-2004, 12:33 AM

<pre id=code>hey ppl.. i wud like to know wat are the other common interests, pakistanis have besides cricket and movies... anyone interested can post their replies..
and also are there any discos and pubs there? if not where do u guys party?? </pre id=code>

Asif, I understand that you are a young person and vibrant as well. Pakistanis have lots of interests and our interests mainly fall within the ideological infrastructure we believe in. Discos and pubs (as you referred) are not part of our ideology.

People who are party animals rarely succeed to understand the values of ideology.

maani · 12-13-2004, 08:22 AM

AOA..
Asif u should visit Lahore, u will find our interests and activities...

Ace

Asif_ghat · 12-13-2004, 04:08 PM

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Surely you dont party in discos and pubs, then my question is that where do you party

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sorry apocalypse.. i didnt get it!! wat makes u think i dont party in discos.. of course there are quite a few here.. and that's where i party and there are lotsa private parties in beach-houses and farm-houses too? i'm still not sure wat u asked!!

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